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25 Creedmoor
04 March 2019, 08:24
craigster25 Creedmoor
More Creedmoor:
"any deer within half a mile would be afraid to show his tines"
okay...
https://coldboremiracle.com/20...rd-the-25-creedmoor/04 March 2019, 09:15
boom stickI'm tempted to get a Savage 99 in 250 Savage and run a 6CM reamer in it to make a 25CM
04 March 2019, 17:41
TimanThat would soup it up. Maybe get a 6 creed bushing die with a 25 Bushing in it.
12 April 2019, 05:35
AtkinsonWhat a waste of a 250-3000 for no change in ballistics..
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
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Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
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13 April 2019, 07:05
Lamarbut it would say creedmore on it which adds 300 yards to the price.
23 April 2019, 01:51
AtkinsonOh, of course, why didn't I think of that!
and what an investment you wouldl end up with!!!
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
08 July 2019, 08:04
ColoradoMattSame cartridge, different name, by Richard Mann:
www.outdoorhub.com/amp/index.p...idge-2fity-hillbilly
Matt
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16 September 2019, 16:18
DocEdI have two of P.O. Akleys favorite Imp. cartridge rifles. The 250-3000 AI. Would not expect the CM case to be of any benefit.
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16 September 2019, 21:14
boom stickWhy is the 6.5 CM a success? It is not just an idiot but a village, a whole ecosystem of good things working together. The 250-3000 AI may be great as a full custom but if you get full custom results from off the shelf guns and ammo, there is the magic. If the industry supports a 25CM it would be incredible for the quarter bore as a whole but especially for the hopefully soon to be 25CM.
17 September 2019, 15:29
DocEd[quote]If the industry supports a 25CM it would be incredible for the quarter bore as a whole..."
Agreed. "If" being the operative word. Until then would still be a wildcat that has already been done.
My calculations show a 1 Gr.(water) capacity advantage for the old 250 AI over the Creedmoor.
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17 September 2019, 20:18
boom stickA +P 257 Roberts with high BC bullets in a long action would be something.
18 September 2019, 01:59
DocEdThe lack of any readily available .257 long range bullets is the problem. The 257 AI is an awesome whitetail deer round.
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18 September 2019, 04:14
boom stickThe 131 grain .257” Blackjack Ace bullet seems to be the knees of bees for high BC.
quote:
Originally posted by DocEd:
The lack of any readily available .257 long range bullets is the problem. The 257 AI is an awesome whitetail deer round.
18 September 2019, 16:39
DocEdWOW!!! That is exactly what the 25-06 and 257 Wby. have been waiting for. Thanks for the heads up. I had never heard of them.
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18 September 2019, 18:46
matt salmquote:
Originally posted by DocEd:
WOW!!! That is exactly what the 25-06 and 257 Wby. have been waiting for. Thanks for the heads up. I had never heard of them.
Still a custom barrel option, don’t know of any 1-7 or even 8 twist factory barrels needed for that Blackjack bullet.
I do like the 25’s though, I have a 250 Savage Browning BLR and a 25-284 on a Win 70 SA with a 3.050” Mag box. Both shoot extremely well.
Shoot straight, shoot often.
Matt
18 September 2019, 19:47
boom stickHere is the link where to get the barrel he used in the article
https://blackjackbullets.com/p...lets/?v=7516fd43adaathe above link will help you with other 257 high BC items if you scroll to the bottom.
21 September 2019, 08:12
AtkinsonAgain the big mistake is trying to make a magnum out of a nice easy recoiling accurate rifle that doesn't bellow like a bull moose in heart.. that is a perfect deer rifle as is, both the 6.5 Creedmore as is or the 250-3000 std factory round. If you need all that velocity, blast and recoil go to a 25-06 or a 257 wby..Its the old saying, "Trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear" or "man is a walking contradiction, some fact but mostly fiction" in this case.
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
23 September 2019, 06:16
capowardquote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Again the big mistake is trying to make a magnum out of a nice easy recoiling accurate rifle that doesn't bellow like a bull moose in heart.. that is a perfect deer rifle as is, both the 6.5 Creedmore as is or the 250-3000 std factory round. If you need all that velocity, blast and recoil go to a 25-06 or a 257 wby..Its the old saying, "Trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear" or "man is a walking contradiction, some fact but mostly fiction" in this case.
Ray,
I believe what you, and perhaps others, are ignoring is the potential benefit of, for lack of a better description, of a Creedmoor’ updated 250 Savage. One that is factory capable of, due to its fast twist rifling, handling 1.350” to 1.500” long high-BC target and hunting bullets loaded to a maximum 2.800” or 2.825” COAL which would work in all current or 50 year old factory SA rifles.
It definitely wouldn’t be some “magnumized” cartridge as it’s PMAX wouldn’t exceed 62K psi.
Jim
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John Wayne 23 September 2019, 08:13
NormanConquestRay, I can see that you're a Kristofferson fan as well.
Never mistake motion for action.
24 September 2019, 22:33
AtkinsonYeah and I like willys singing anyway..
Doc,
Try the Nosler Accubonds in a 25 caliber, long range capable..
I don't argue with wildcatters, its just a waste of time, their head be made up!!
and they can justify any project with fiddle faddle..Load a wildcat with 60 gr.s of Bull shit and you got winner!!
Just kidding, but been there and done did it.
Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120
rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
26 September 2019, 08:35
NormanConquestWillies ranch is not far from me. It tickles me when these out of towners start seeing celebrities in the music industry at the grocery store, etc. Hell, everybody eats. The same would happen in L.A. with running into movie stars. Oh yeah, there goes another one. Its just business as usual here.
Never mistake motion for action.
10 October 2019, 03:45
460 wby shooterquote:
Originally posted by boom stick:
A +P 257 Roberts with high BC bullets in a long action would be something.
Building that exact rifle right now for the wife, a FN Mauser 30-06 being rebarreled to 257 Roberts withe a 22 inc Douglas #4 contour.
11 October 2019, 15:44
Mike McGuirequote:
Originally posted by DocEd:
WOW!!! That is exactly what the 25-06 and 257 Wby. have been waiting for. Thanks for the heads up. I had never heard of them.
Under the new "less is more" they will give lower velocity
26 November 2019, 06:10
44magLeoIf you do a bit of research you will find they used the 250 Savage case as a basis for a line of cartridges. They called them Internationals. They came in many bore sizes.
Used a lot in metalic silhouette shooting.
Low recoil and used high ballistic bullets.
This line of cartridges is very similar to te Creedmoor case.
The 250 Savage Imp is another very close case.
So the 25 CM was built a long time ago. Just under a different name.
Leo
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26 November 2019, 07:02
ismithquote:
Originally posted by craigster:
More Creedmoor:
"any deer within half a mile would be afraid to show his tines"
okay...
https://coldboremiracle.com/20...rd-the-25-creedmoor/
I think shooting anything ending in Creedmoor or less requires you to state "No homo" after each shot.
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Thro' many warlike ages,
Is wrought now by a coward few,
For hireling traitor's wages.
26 November 2019, 21:40
bpesteveAhh, secret agent .007", a license to quill...
26 November 2019, 22:41
JeffreyPhDquote:
Originally posted by ismith:
quote:
Originally posted by craigster:
More Creedmoor:
"any deer within half a mile would be afraid to show his tines"
okay...
https://coldboremiracle.com/20...rd-the-25-creedmoor/
I think shooting anything ending in Creedmoor or less requires you to state "No homo" after each shot.
Partly. The full phrase, again stated after each shot, is "You too sexy, no homo." Say it after me, but be sure not to mispronounce "no" as "mo."
07 December 2019, 09:21
capowardquote:
Originally posted by boom stick:
http://www.x-caliber.net/Here is the link where to get the barrel he used in the article
https://blackjackbullets.com/p...lets/?v=7516fd43adaathe above link will help you with other 257 high BC items if you scroll to the bottom.
And here's a nice .257 128 gr mono-copper hollow point with a G7 .244 BC hunting bullet:
https://hammerbullets.com/prod...-128g-hammer-hunter/ Jim
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