I was wanting know what everybody thinks about these two. This gun will be mainly used for coyotes.

There is a small thread on the small bore about the super hot 22's. I have a shooting buddy with a Valkryie 22-284. Its hot, thats for sure, and he only uses it for really long shots on pdogs...his concesus is next time around, he'll just have a 22-250 reamed with a longer throat for the 80gr VLD bullets and get pretty similar results with longer case/barrel life.

i think the 22-250,220 swift, uses too much powder[almost] already. any more and you will need a 40" bbl to get the advantage of all that powder.

The most popular "coyote build" I do is the 22/243 Middlested. About 50-50 on the twist rate of 50-60gr Vs 70-80gr.


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If going with such a big case, I think it would make more sense to use the 70 and 80 gr bullets. On the lighter side, don't see a lot of gain over other fast 22's for the potential short barrel life

if it's a Valkyrie, it's my copy for Precision Shooting many moons ago. I specified a 1:8" twist solely for the 80gr JLK/Berger bullets and long distance.

The idea was to replace the 6mm as a caliber for long range on Rockchucks.

Rich
Buffalo Killer

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
if it's a Valkyrie, it's my copy for Precision Shooting many moons ago. I specified a 1:8" twist solely for the 80gr JLK/Berger bullets and long distance.

The idea was to replace the 6mm as a caliber for long range on Rockchucks.

Rich
Buffalo Killer

i recall reading that one, Rich!!

Milehighshooter;
When it come to the bullet weight the time of flight for a 50-55 gr bullets keeps thing real equal to 350 yards. Beyond that the big bullets "take over". Many of the shooters prefer the light bullets due to less recoil and the dead on zero to 300 trajectory.With 50-55 gr bullets a 26" barrel will produce plenty of velocity. The 70gr and up barrels do show some velocity benifits of the 28-30" barrels. So it does depend on how you use the rifle. Do the ballistics on a 75gr Amax or an 80gr Sierra to 1000 yards at 3600 fps and the mid point elevation is about as flat as it gets and the lack of recoil compared to the larger cartridges makes the big 22's ideal for long range varmint work just as Rich was talking about.


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I had a 22-284 and to get the velocity with the 80grain bullets, they vaporized the bullets. It shot great at lower velocities, but that defeated the purpose. I am using the 22X47L now. A much better combination and the barrel will last over 400 rounds.
Butch

Rich,

I am going to lunch with my buddy tomorrow, I will ask him about it more in detail. I will see if he can send me a pic to post to see if its like yours. IIRC its SS with a loooong barrel and I want to say a green stock?

What real advantage does it have over a hot 6mm cartridge? 87 grain V-Max has a BC of .4 and 95 SMK's shoot dead on with a .5 BC in my gun.

Rich,

Found out from my buddy the article is what gave him the push towards this rifle!

MileHighShooter,

tell him thanks, I am flattered.

Rich
Buff Killer

I still end up making 3-5 each year [22-284]They are usually accurate and FAST! Barrel life is short if you rapid fire but watching the "Black Mirage" is impressive!
Aloha, Mark