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Nothing like a new case to get wildcatters salivating. Dragged from 24hourcampfire, not sure whether official or not.

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Look familiar?

Vital stats pending, it appears to be a very simple chamber clean-out for 7mmRemMags, 338WinMags, maybe even 375Rugers.

If verified that it's RUM based ... might even make excellent donor brass for the AR series.
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Is this new cartridge going to truly out preform the 264 Win without a propriety powder? It's just another over-bore cartridge, cool looking but possible just another dead cartridge in a few years.
 
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Is this new cartridge going to truly out preform the 264 Win without a propriety powder? It's just another over-bore cartridge, cool looking but possible just another dead cartridge in a few years.

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Is this new cartridge going to truly out preform the 264 Win without a propriety powder? It's just another over-bore cartridge, cool looking but possible just another dead cartridge in a few years

Since you are hard pressed to use all the capacity of a 264Wmag in a 26" I can't see a reason for this one.


As usual just my $.02
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So, they release a slightly longer WSM or shorter RUM, depending on how you want to look at it. This really should have been a 30 cal.


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This really should have been a 30 cal.


Give them time ... a 7mm, 30cal, 338cal will all fit the 'long-range' theme. 30cal is well populated though.

The capacity is also there to exceed the 375Ruger in 375cal and make a handy 416cal or better yet a 423" to distinguish itself from the common 416s.
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Naw... 30 caliber is very well covered. I think a new offering in .338 caliber on the same case would be great.


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Naw... 30 caliber is very well covered. I think a new offering in .338 caliber on the same case would be great.


The .30 cal magnum is very well represented, they all just happen to have a belt though. Looking at all the 404 Jeff. based cases, I think that the only ones they got close to right was the 338 RUM, 270WSM, and 25 WSSM.

If I was CEO of Winchester before the short fat magnum craze I would have come out with a lineup like this:

25 WSSM
6.5 RSAUM
270 WSM
7mm-26 Nosler-30 degree shoulder
300-26 Nosler- 30 degree shoulder
338 RUM


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65,000 PSI ...... don't put this in your GEW or Turkish Mauser !

Owning a 244 H&H you learn all about very high pressure small bores. (Mine is a custom with a 6mm not .240 bore). Tore the extractors out of 700 bolts (a SAKO extractor fixed that) and an 80 gr TTSX at 3700 fps is impressive.

I thought the experts had agreed that the 6.5/284 was the cat's meow so why this ? The barrel makers will love it for sure. I'm sure Remington and Winchester will rush to chamber for it.
After all they did so well with the SAUMs and WSSMs.

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Boddington has a review in Guns and Ammo, fairly complimentary, as he always is.
Not sure of the niche for this one though other than Nosler is championing it.
 
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Point blank to 415 yards? No problem. Scope C/L 4" above bore C/L.
 
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.532 casehead and .550 web . that is the rum base .. 2.590 case length, and 35 degrees? 96.4 ammo guide suggest case capacity?

my goodness.. the accrels rum based rounds are 2.55 and 36.5 degrees .. and about 100 gr..

hold on.. 2.166 shoulder length vs 2.15 shoulder?

well,goodness, i designed this case, or darn close to it, in 2005 ...

funny, aint it?


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and, yep, i designed a 264 on it and you could us the rum based accrel headspace gauge ... very intereting


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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and, yep, i designed a 264 on it and you could us the rum based accrel headspace gauge ... very intereting


What is the Accrel's headspace dimensions?

2.2390" min - 2.2490 max is listed on the 26Nosler.

Contacted Nosler yet for your royalty cheque? Big Grin
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not after check ... i aint jamison ... though the idea for a roughly 2.5" supermag did pop into my otherwise empty head in the early 90s .. about 93, as i was building my first 358 winchester


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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not after check ... i aint jamison ... though the idea for a roughly 2.5" supermag did pop into my otherwise empty head in the early 90s .. about 93, as i was building my first 358 winchester


So what are you going to do cowboy?
 
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