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Hi, just haveing a thought. Could a RUM case be swagged down for use as a 375 Ruger? The RUM base is .545" and the Ruger is .530? The difference is about 1.5x the thickness of a paper plate. You might have to look at the primer pocket afterwards and maybe run a reamer in it if it got squished. I see everybody complaining about no 375 Ruger brass. Why not make some? | ||
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I took a 375 RUM case and ran it up into a LEE 375 H&H seater die in a Lee Classic Cast press. It started pushing a ring of brass, so I took some sand cloth and tried to bevel the base a little. That worked fine and I was able to get the case almost all the way in, but stopped about 1/8" above the extractor groove. I used a mix of Bull Shop's case lube and RCBS case lube and went in about 3/8" in steps. The case ended up .533" I think that a die with a gradual taper at the opening should be able to get most of it. I don't know if the web would be able to go through or not, but it might be possible to turn the base down slightly on a lathe. | |||
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It's easier and doesn't damage the base and corner radius, if done like I do them. I take base down with my spinner lathe,at an angle from the base out, then swage. Use a lathe with small lathe jaw to hold mouth of the case and small live center that goes in the primer pocket, so the base of the case is out where you can work on it. Then take base down at the front of the extractor groove to size you want. Use a multi-faceted floating cutting tool(file).But do it at an angle out away from the base so case has a convex shape to the side above base, It won't thin the sides enough to hurt and then swage, and the swage wiil go down over the heavy part of the base easier.And you haven't jammed or crinkled the corner radius.I took a 12ga FH case with .801 base and took it down to .780" to make a 700NE case in a few minutes, and the swage did the rest.Lathe and flat file and swage dies can do about anything.Ed. MZEE WA SIKU | |||
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Thanks, that makes sence. Do you use a hydrallic press? | |||
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btw, you draw down, swage up at least in bullet making. replied in bigbores... you would need to turn some off the base to not reduce the case capacity, and not so much that you have weak cases..... and would need 1" forming dies though, to not crack it opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Lar45-Jeffe- I use big Ammomaster and big Lee Classic for bmg,12ga FH and smaller work. I have used Lyman Orange on everything up to and my 585.Have the handles lengthened. For 4bore/20mm use Ammomaster. It is reinforced and leverage can be changed for 4bore, by moving pin in bottom of ram. I did that so compound leverage is the strongest where I need it on middle of case with 4bore 1st die, then move pin for second die at base. I have always felt that if hydraulics are needed you may be crinkling the corner, like with the 700DKT and one let loose and blew up one the double bolts.Ed. MZEE WA SIKU | |||
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