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30-284 vs. 308?
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I've got three 308 rifles and would like something different so I'm thinking of re-chambering my Model 7 to a 30-284. How much increase could I expect? Are there usually feeding problems with this conversion?
 
Posts: 385 | Location: Brunswick, GA | Registered: 15 April 2005Reply With Quote
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Ballistic is equivalent to 30.06.
I don't know for Model 7 but you may have one less round in the magazine and the need to file a bit the lips of the magazine to open them to get a better feeding.
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A 30/284 is a wonderful cartridge. Loading manuals tell you to use 30/06 data, but I can say from experiance that it'll do anything and more than a 30/06, and more accurately too.
 
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May have a problem with magazine and the 30x284. Brownells sell an extended magazine box for the model 7 only for the wsm case but may be able to change out follower. Problem your going to have is ejecting a loaded round may have to notch out part of the front receiver.


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Not sure if a 20 inch barrel is going to gixe you any increase ,,,tj3006


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If you want to stretch the performance of your .308, using High Energy or Light Magnum ammunition would probably get you the same results with a lot less hassle. But if you want something different to play with, go ahead and play!
 
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Kend,

Make up some empty rounds and see if they feed. The 284's I made up fed well from my Kimber but my magazine is too short for my taste.

Unless you can make a long magazine out of it I would not do it.


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I have experienced some feeding problems with a .25-284 in my model Seven. The shoulder is pretty wide, so the magazine box needed to be replaced with a window style box and the feed rails had to be widened slightly by the gunsmith so that the last round would feed. With these modifications I am able to fit three in the box. Performance so far has been pretty much equal to a .25-06--100 grain bullet at 3300 fps with a 23 inch tube. I would expect that a .30-284 would easily equal factory .30-06 loads and maybe a bit more depending on barrel length. I certainly would not want less than 22 inches on a gun with that amount of case capacity. Anything shorter than that would probably not offer you the performance you desire. A model Seven can already be had in .300 SAUM, which I know from personal experience to be a very nice cartridge. With the 22" factory barrel velocity is right about halfway between a hot loaded .30-06 and a .300 Winchester Magnum. I pretty easily get 2900 fps with a 180 grain bullet. The model Seven magnum action is also designed to feed those fat cartridges and does so very well. Accuracy from mine has been pretty good too.


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I have rechambered a couple rifle to 30-284, but think that a 22" is about the minimum to see a meaningful velocity increase and not too much muzzle flash. The 722 in 300 Savage that I rechambered had a 24" barrel and would go between 100 and 200 fps faster than the 308 with the same bullet in the 150 to 180 grain range. Personally, having BTDT, I wouldn't bother to do it again. The really good 284 wildcats that I've played with are the 25-284, 6.5-284, and 338-284. The 22-284, 30-284, and 35-284 didn't work as well for me.

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30-284=the 7.5x55 Swiss

Have not shot this in anything but a K31 Swiss rifle with cast bullets. VERY good shooter. I would say if you want to try this caliber to buy a K31 as they are cheaper than a rechamber. I am thinking of a 30-284 project down the road myself.
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John G is correct. Just use Federal High Energy or Hornady Light Magnum loads. If you need more power than a 308 step up to the 300 Mag.
My model 7 and my Blaser Tracker in 308 are some of my favorite rifles.
If i think I will need to shoot 300 yards + on a hunt I use my 300 Mag.


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same sentence as "30-06vs308"

you would "gain" about 100-125 fps (no game can tell 100fps) for about $400 in gunsmithing, and then have an unsalable wildcat.

you DO understand that a remington 700 in 30-06 is all of 3/16 or .1875", or less than about a dozen business cards longer, don't you?

sell the 7, get a 700, and bemiles ahead, as the 7 mag will NOT allow you to actually get any of the additional "magic" that long seated x284 based rounds get

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Thought about doing the 30-284 in a 308 in an old J-series Savage with short mag box(2.8in.). You'll probably find (I did) that 180 grainers and heavier spitzer bullets will be seated deeply, ogive below the case mouth. Looks kinda funny.
 
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If you really want more performance, why not go with a 300 WSM? I can't see putting the money into a re-chamber, new dies and brass unless I'm gaining at least 200-300 fps over the parent chambering.


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