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Originally posted by MFD:
Mercy!! There are some very strong opinions, beliefs, etc. regarding the practice of using or not using wire brush to clean a bore. If one beieves using a brush is absolutely necessary, then have at it and same goes for using a bore scope(Hawkeye, have ready access to one) but I hardly think that saying one is a "fool" for not doing what someone else does is definitely on the harsh side and a poor choice of words in this situation.
My whole point for mentioning that some do not advocate use of the brush in their rifles is that their rifles clean up readily and with little or no copper fouling. The matches I participate in are Long Range NRA classification type and round count can be near 100 including sighters in a relatively short period of time. Can say that the bores of my Krieger barrels or Douglas show little copper after such steady firing in a match. As for the bore being pristine clean at a match, unless you have no sighters, the sighters will foul the barrel somewhat and there went the so called pristine bore concept. Some of the matches allow two sighters, some 5, and some give you twenty minutes to fire 20 rounds plus sighters in 30 minutes. My fouled bore is not the reason I do not shoot a "clean" target at matches, but the "trigger puller" and my natural point of aim, sling tension, head position,light conditions(receiver sights,) and so on. If a "super clean" bore works for others, God Bless and go for it!!

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Some say stainless is not a problem with Sweet's, but I am not so sure about that.

We get all sorts of rifles through our shooting range.

Some are stainless, and some are with blued barrels.

I have been trying to see if I can get an idea which barrel is susceptable to Sweet causing the patches to come out rusty.

I am afraid we have not arrived at an answer.

Last week, we shot several rifles, all had stainless barrels. And we cleaned them using Sweet's.

Only one, a Winchester Model 70, in 300 Weatherby Magnum, is the one which seems not to like Sweets.

The patch would come out brown after a few minutes.

Right next to it, we had two rifles. A Weatherby Mk V in 257 Weatherby with a stainless fluted barrel, and a Winchester HB blued barrel in 300 Winchester Magnum.

Neither of these seem to mind Sweet's at all.

So we are still scratching our heads why some barrels seem to be affected while others are not.

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Originally posted by SR4759:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Some say stainless is not a problem with Sweet's, but I am not so sure about that.

We get all sorts of rifles through our shooting range.

Some are stainless, and some are with blued barrels.

I have been trying to see if I can get an idea which barrel is susceptable to Sweet causing the patches to come out rusty.

I am afraid we have not arrived at an answer.

Last week, we shot several rifles, all had stainless barrels. And we cleaned them using Sweet's.

Only one, a Winchester Model 70, in 300 Weatherby Magnum, is the one which seems not to like Sweets.

The patch would come out brown after a few minutes.

Right next to it, we had two rifles. A Weatherby Mk V in 257 Weatherby with a stainless fluted barrel, and a Winchester HB blued barrel in 300 Winchester Magnum.

Neither of these seem to mind Sweet's at all.

So we are still scratching our heads why some barrels seem to be affected while others are not.

Saeed,
Try a part of the planet with high humidity and let the barrel sit until "dry".

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
did you try Option B, or are you just talking? You exert over 30ft/lbs of torque to push a proper size brush thru a barrel.

Rich