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What would be the possibilities of puttting an integral muzzle brake in the barrel of my JDJ .309?? Or installing a screw on brake?? If possible, does anybody know of a gunsmith who would do such a thing? One hitch, the barrel all ready has magnaporting. I emailed JD Jones and he said he would have to cut off the magnaported p/o the barrel and then put on a screw on type brake, however, looking at the T/C Custom shop muzzle brakes (I have one on my 45/70) there seems to be enough barrel before hitting the ports on my .309 to install a screw on brake. I also have contacted Mike Belm and he doesn't do this type of work. Any ideas, please?? Ray | ||
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Ray, Most likely you'll have to get the barrel cut to get rid of the slots, then have a new brake installed. Mike don't do screw on brakes. Dave Van Horn will do one for ya but it's gonna cost ya about 180 bucks. TC won't even touch a JDJ barrel or any other barrel that didn't come from them. Check with Virgin Valley Custom Guns. Maybe they will do something. | |||
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Newtoot, Why do you want to get rid of the Mag-na-port brake on your barrel? I have had both on my 309JDJ and I like the unbraked barrel best. My suggestion would be to have the M-N-P brake cut off and shoot it that way and if you don't like it then go with some other brake. | |||
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EA Brown HAs brakes. reasonable prices and they have pics of the brakes on the website. Fireball | ||
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Fireball, what is the address/web/email address of EA Brown?. I want to get more recoil reductuion to get better accuracy. I'm not afraid of the .309, it doesn't hurt me, I just can't even begin to shoot it accurately. I'm sure at least p/o the problem is me -- BUT -- I can take the same Contender with a .22lr match chamber barrel and shoot 2 in gps at 100 yds, with no wind, consistently, so all of the problem is not me. I don't care if the magnaporting is left on, just want more braking action. Thanks for replies. Ray | |||
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Newtoot, I'm probably just being nosy, but why do you want the 309 braked, especially since it already has a MP? ![[Confused]](images/icons/confused.gif){kind=icon} Might not cost much more to buy a new barrel w/ an integral brake installed, especially if you have to cut the MP off the present barrel in order to install a brake. If you have to remove the MP, it would certainly be cheaper to buy a used/non-MPed 309 JDJ barrel and then get it braked. Gary T. ![[Smile]](images/icons/smile.gif){kind=icon} | |||
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newtoot You didn't say how many ports you have with the Magnaporting. You might want to consider putting two more ports if you only have two. That should help a little. Rich Jake | |||
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I'm sure at least p/o the problem is me -- BUT -- I can take the same Contender with a .22lr match chamber barrel and shoot 2 in gps at 100 yds, with no wind, consistently, so all of the problem is not me. I don't care if the magnaporting is left on, just want more braking action. Thanks for replies. Ray[/QB][/QUOTE] Ray, You don't have to explain to me why ya want one. If that's what ya want, that's what ya want ![[Wink]](images/icons/wink.gif){kind=icon} For me, the recoil don't bother me but the muzzle flip I can live without. Others on here may disagree but IMHO, all the brake does on short barrels is cut down or stop the muzzle flip and that quick snap of the wrist. They still kick but don't feel quite as bad without the muzzle rise. I noticed when I first started shooting hard kickers in a contender that I would change my grip[grasp] on the gun every shot. This alone would mess up my groups and was the main reason for flyers. That's one hell of a jump going from a 22 to a 309JDJ ya just got to over come the difference A brake may or may not help your shooting. Takes alot of practice with or without one. If you can, maybe let someone else shoot it just to see if it's you or not. It may be the barrel it self or loads your using. Or it may be the scope or mount if your using one. BTW, Is it an SSK or a rechambered factory barrel? [ 01-11-2003, 18:24: Message edited by: Jules ] | |||
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My barrel is an SSK. I have 4 Weaver type rings (Burris signature Zee rings) with an extra hole drilled in the base and barrel. My son in law can shoot it much better than I can but still not super. I have tried many different loads, all within recommended limits. Perhaps I should just sell the barrel as is and purchase a new barrel w/brake??? Thanks Ray | |||
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Jules - did you ever notice the wave of warm air you get from your magnaported barrels? I have two(2) training wheel guns (rifles)that are ported and highly enjoyed shooting them - so I had my .30 Herret done (10" barrel). Now when she barks, she also gives me warm barrel breath - nothing bad, just took some getting used to. | |||
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quote:Sure do buddy. I love it ![[Big Grin]](images/icons/grin.gif){kind=icon} Ya gotta shoot at night to really enjoy the heat of the flame ball.My first was with a Ruger Super Redhawk. I was shooting a contender off sand bags and I used my left fore finger rested along side the of the forend to steady the gun. Worked great and the flame was cool coming out the ports. But then I set up my 44mag Redhawk. It was also braked. I made a mistake and held my finger on the side of the front of the cylinder kinda like I did with the contender. I let one go and WOW! What a ball of fire!!! I think more flame came out the cylinder, frame gap then both the end of the barrel and the brake put together. Burnt all the hair off my wrist and blisterd 3 fingers in seconds ![[Eek!]](images/icons/shocked.gif){kind=icon} Yep, I felt that heat wave I guess that's what 18.3grs of Blue Dot behind a 200gr HP-XTP does. BTW, that's my best load combo in that gun and I shoot it all the time. But i'll pick my nose or my butt with that finger when that gun goes on the bag | |||
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quote:Ray, What kind of 3 and 5 shot groups are you getting and what kind of scope? Both my barrels were 14" factory rechambers, 1 unbraked and the 1 I have now is braked. Both would shoot 5 shots under an inch at 100 with at least a half dozen different loads. | |||
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www.eabco.com they have prices picture and all Fireball quote: | ||
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 You're gonna do WHAT with that finger? | |||
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Thanks for Email address, have any of you tried the "Howitzer" brake? Would it interfere with the scope viewing? I am getting about 8 in gps at 100 yds with the .309. My scope is a Burris variable handgun scope. Thanks Ray | |||
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My .309 came in the guise of a TC Hunter 12" .30-30 barrel that JD rechambered. Of course the Hunter is a bull barrel with the TC brake. That thing does not even move off target when I shoot, and that's a 165 gr. at 2304 fps and will put 5 into 1.5" all day long at 200 yards. There is no recoil to speak of. Fox Ridge, TC's custom shop, can put you on the brake for somewhere in the neighborhood of $100. Go to their web page, linked with TC's, and check them out. Of course, they will also have to remove the Mag-Na-Porting in order for you to get the most out of your brake. | |||
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NewToot: I just want to thank you for starting a thread spelling it muzzle brake, and not muzzle break! anal in Oregon .... | |||
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quote:ROFLMAO! Not to hijack this topic, but I am also a little tired of all the mis-spelled words here (by native English and American speakers, I should say). I bet they were all out hunting rather than in school! Actually, I guess I'm just jealous! ![[Roll Eyes]](images/icons/rolleyes.gif){kind=icon} | |||
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quote:Fox Ridge won't do anything with a barrel that's been rechambered by someone other then them. They won't do work on an SSK barrel, or Van Horn or VVCG or Bullberry or any other custom barrel. They will only work on a TC barrel in a TC chambering made by Thompson Center. | |||
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Anymore ideas??? Certainly, I'm not an expert but I see no reason that the end of the present barrel couldn't be reamed out and holes drilled, then inside of reamed/drilled p/o barrel smoothed. Also, just how much barrel is required if I went the screw on brake route(P/o barrel before hitting first of the 4 magnaports seems to be enough for threading, it is compared to amount of barrel used to screw on T/C custom shop muzzle tamer) Also, I have been toying with the idea of selling all of my Contender stuff (frame, 3 barrels, dies, case, etc) and going either the Encore or Savage Striker route. Thanks for previous replies. Ray | |||
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Psst.....Hobie......come here a second......(leaning into his ear so nobody hears).....misspelled is not a hyphenated word!!..........I won't tell anybody you did this in your thread.........OK. Just had to bring that up buddy - LOL | |||
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quote:Darn it! ![[Mad]](images/icons/mad.gif){kind=icon} Double darn it!!!!! | |||
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