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Let's not turn another thread into a S$%*@ slinging fest.



"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP

If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.

Semper Fidelis

"Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time"
 
Posts: 13440 | Location: Virginia | Registered: 10 July 2003Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Blue Dog:
The Smith & Wesson developed to damn much recoil for those little guys (small hands!) that came into the FBI at that time period. The only insult is to those like yourself, who profess to know it all and don't know jack crap from beans.



I did not know that Hand size is now a job requirement to work with the FBI. Where did you get that from ? rotflmo

I have been on here for about 8 yrs. and have never been called a Troll, Moron, or the many other insults that have been vectored your way, by so many long time members. That speaks VOLUMES for the information I put out.

The rate you are going, you won't be around here for more than 8 days. You have ruined every thread you comment in, to the point that they get locked. Keep up the good work. thumbdown


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Getting at your gun gets all "fussy" & "messed" up! (Only if your a ROOKIE with a pistol) for crying out loud.


Well BlueDog, not all of us open carry three Glocks. Many of us who socialize with civilized people prefer to keep a low profile. It ruffles fewer feathers, creates fewer confrontations, and doesn't say "shoot me first". In an area that can go from -40 to 110, that means practicing draws from a variety of covering garments.

Of course it's also possible that you like confrontations.....But most boxers do.
 
Posts: 3034 | Location: Colorado | Registered: 01 July 2010Reply With Quote
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Buckeye,

CAS or IPSC certainly is good practice and certainly competition induces some form of stress. However, competitive events are somewhat "self regulated" in other words I only go as fast as I am willing to go.

I have found two types of training to be better.

1. where the students is forced to exercise and achieve an elevated heart rate and some level of fatigue and then "forced" through a course of fire.

2. The new well over 10 years old now un- tethered laser systems with projected full motion video, recoiling weapons, sound systems, shoot back cannons, real time instructor modifications, shot placement recording is very good training for decision making skills and somewhat effective on accuracy training although the effect of recoil is obviously not the same.


Mike

Legistine actu quod scripsi?

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10169 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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A.S........now where do you come off with this crap of "Boxer" and confrontations? Holy Cow! You and your crystal ball best head back to the pawn shop for a lube job.

You and Cold Zero.....great name by the way. It suits him to a Tee. Everybody who knows anthing about the FBI incident in Florida knew what was and what was not A-HOLE. My statement had to do with the fact that "IF" the FBI would have had such a pistol in their hand, they would not have had to worry about penetration at all. Now you can KISS MY IRISH AMERICAN ASS MR. J.O. and Antelope Nuts YOU especially you F_&_&_& Ding A Ling. Chow Baby
 
Posts: 334 | Location: America | Registered: 23 April 2010Reply With Quote
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Cold Zero......Yes we all know the Glock 20 in 10 mm was not around, however the 10mm was around and that is my pont. The FBI canned that project because of women who could not shoot the pistol. The Smith & Wesson developed to damn much recoil for those little guys (small hands!) that came into the FBI at that time period. The only insult is to those like yourself, who profess to know it all and don't know jack crap from beans.



Again , the S&W 1076 wasn't introduced until 1990. Miami was in what, 1986? The Norma rounds that worked just fine in the 1911, were too hot for the 1076, just like they were on the warm side for the Ol Bren.

In any event, I'm somewhat suprised to hear you of all people sticking up for those slick G-men.
 
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I would still like to know A=S just where you got the idea that I was some kind of "Boxer"? LOL

It is kind of ironic that those so called G-men were going to put someone in a hard corner and they themselves end up doing hard time for the very thing JW was being accused of doing. Now who went to the Big HOUSE.......Dah! The FBI G-men.

I am positive that JW gets a big smile out that every morning as he strolls down the beach, the French Riviera, with his long time lady. Yep, just soaking up the lime light. Color me gone kiddo. I got better things to do than wipe your A$$'S............22 skiddo oh yeah!
 
Posts: 334 | Location: America | Registered: 23 April 2010Reply With Quote
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I boxed for more than two decades and I'm not confrontational! shocker

Gentlemen, keep the conversation civil or I'm going to lock this thread down tight.



"Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP

If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming.

Semper Fidelis

"Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time"
 
Posts: 13440 | Location: Virginia | Registered: 10 July 2003Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
Buckeye,

CAS or IPSC certainly is good practice and certainly competition induces some form of stress. However, competitive events are somewhat "self regulated" in other words I only go as fast as I am willing to go.

I have found two types of training to be better.

1. where the students is forced to exercise and achieve an elevated heart rate and some level of fatigue and then "forced" through a course of fire.

2. The new well over 10 years old now un- tethered laser systems with projected full motion video, recoiling weapons, sound systems, shoot back cannons, real time instructor modifications, shot placement recording is very good training for decision making skills and somewhat effective on accuracy training although the effect of recoil is obviously not the same.

thank you for the information and opinion.
tu2
 
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