Surely you blokes in the forces couldn't be so unlucky to be sent there to sort out that type of cr--?

Wadeye (Port Keats) was apparently OK until the 60's when bleeding hearts decided everyone had the same set of values, beliefs etc. The missionaries had to be wrong.

The papers down here are full of it to-day. Baby sitting people who cannot look after themselves.

Not even John Howard would have the gall to send you blokes in to sort out something that was completely stuffed by the bleeding heart, left wingers?

GBB, you sadly underestimate the capacity for self-delusion that Little Johnnie possess, and indeed seems to be running rampant through Canberra.
Besides, this might get the AWB off the front page so, as far as he is concerned, it's all good.

yea a problem thats been arround for a LONG time and only getting big press coverage now???? wotteva gets the voters on side.
my only problem is what is the army gonna do about domestic violence???? stand around getting photographed with pollies in the forgound shaking the hand of some "elder" ????
there is a bigger problem in these comunities than we can solve by shaking hands and waving flags there has to be a fundamantal change in the attitude and culture in the comunity..... its not gonna happen any time soon
ill stop ranting, greg

Napalm ............. ?

Um, does our gumment alow em to hav sich stuf? oure forcese i mean. i fink jon may fink it tooo danjeros.

Jist give them poure ons more sitt don monee or fuomes, i fink.

It would be nice opportunity for the ADF to have a deployment where no one hurts themselves due to faulty equipment or guns accidentally discharging all over the joint. A walk in the park, one would think ...

Seriously though, putting em' in camps/ghettos isn't really solving anything, the 19th century (final) solution has also fallen out of favour internationally, so what do we do?

we could send in bakes and that frendly puppy of his. ref bakes where are you, in the dogs forum.
he wont get to many arguments with him!!!!!

No way would I risk my dog in that place. As soon as we stepped onto the street we would be set on by all those mangy camp dogs You'd run out of bullets shooting the bloody things.

I think we should just pull out of the place. Shut down all services and leave them to sort each other out.

Gosh - I love white Australias way of handling issues dealing with indigenous people . So much compassion , such a caring , sensitive approach...No wonder the Abos hate you all.....

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I think we should just pull out of the place. Shut down all services and leave them to sort each other out.

unfortnatly bakes that just sends them to the place that the services are ...... darwin and i dont need any more race/ gang wars thanks. but if you need some help i would be glad to take every round i own to shoot those mongral camp dogs. just doing my bit
greg

"mangy camp dogs"

Um, how many legs do they have? 2 or 4?

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Originally posted by muzza:
Gosh - I love white Australias way of handling issues dealing with indigenous people . So much compassion , such a caring , sensitive approach...No wonder the Abos hate you all.....

Yeah, the Kiwi's had a far more humane way of dealing with their indigenous people. The Maori War. A far nicer way of behaving, hey muzza?

Sambar , mate , Im disappointed that there hasnt been any more bites at my posting. Everyone must be too busy slamming some poor prick that fell off a mountain after getting out of a chopper ....

Yep , we had our land wars , several bouts of them spanning forty odd years . And during those battles , maori tribes fought on the side of those who they thought would give them the best deal if they won . Not uncommonly they swapped sides part way through as well.

But you would struggle to find any documented situations in NZ history were the maori people were treated as badly as your successive governments have treated the australian aborigine. I dont recall maori being hunted for sport by the colonists , nor a policy of starving them into "submission" and then ignoring their plight for 200 years .

I dont expect you to feel guilty over your nations history , but you do need to actually accept that it happened , and it had governmental backing to happen . And it still happens today , like it or not .

This "problem" isnt going to go away , no matter how far in the sand you bury your collective heads.

Dont get shitty with me over this , its your problem , not mine .

Who's shitty? I knew you were itching for at least one bite....

BTW, the only Aborigines I have had much to do with have been either in the Army, or survival instructors for the Army. The funny thing is, in the Army, if you do your job, no-one gives a fuck what colour your skin is.
Having had that sort of exposure with them, I have a hard time seeing why they should be any different to anyone else. Treat them the same as everyone else, they are the same as everyone else, shit stirring minorities (on both sides) not withstanding.
As for the Pollies, don't get me started!

I have the greatest respect for aboriginal people and so far nobody has hinted what the "problem" is.
In aboriginal culture, the elders are wanting to stay with traditional ways but the younger generation want more and are venting their anger against both the elders and the whites. Add to that drink & chroming and really they are shite faced and probably not coherant with what they are doing.
Our government solution is to simply throw money at the problem where what is needed is simple hope! Through education, these youths want the same oppertunities that white society and kids enjoy.
Give them hope for a viable & meaningfull future.

For the people that have some knowledge about Port Keats (unlike Muzza) isn't the issue not black vs white, but actually black vs black. All the tribal hatred against each other that has existed for thousands of years?

I don't see the Port Keats violence as against whites, but blacks against blacks. Only the left wingers always try to blame everything on the whites. There is no such thing as an "Aboriginal race", there is hundreds of small tribes, clans, skins etc, and often one tribe hates the next and so on.

I have a lot of time for some of the Aborigines i know. They are equal in every way to anyone else; the colour of the skin is unimportant.

What gets me about Wadeye is that all was going well when it was still Port Keats, and the missionaries were there. But it was believed by some that the aborigines were better left to run their own lives. So out with the whites...

years later, the society there has collapsed and now the locals want more whites back to run the show. There are 5 police but they carn't control the 2000 odd inhabitants. More police, the Elders ask for.

Some pollies suggests the army to stop the gang war fare, the behaviour that beggars belief. Grog and chroming have created a situation where humans are acting in ways that is inhuman.

I don't see why our army should be sent in to try and clean up the mess. They will just get a tough time there and IF they don't succeed or heaven forbid, someone gets killed, they will be blamed. Not those who are completely out of control.

Muzza, my Kiwi mate said to ask you about the "foreshore" and have you bought anything at a Maori corporation lately? I don't think he believes the whites in NZ have been fantastic to the Maoris and that the whites here have no more to answer for?

So is your head in the sand too, Muzza?

I thought I would get a really HOT response to this one.

So I thought I would bring it to the top again.

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Originally posted by muzza:
Sambar , mate , Im disappointed that there hasnt been any more bites at my posting. Everyone must be too busy slamming some poor prick that fell off a mountain after getting out of a chopper ....

That was pretty funny muzza...