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Originally posted by Big Wonderful Wyoming:
I like F-Class a lot, the precision rifle matches are more interesting shooting, as there are more unknowns, but there are way more wannabe spec-war types there so I guess it is a wash.

With F-class and marked targets you don't chase the wind. As too much time has lapsed to base wind calls on previous shots. Precision rifle matches is more like varmint hunting or BR matches, you are usually chasing the wind with the reticle, as the time lapses between shots are much faster.

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Originally posted by Big Wonderful Wyoming:
Butch,

Because F-class targets are marked, it takes time between shots. So you can't really correct for wind based on the last shot.

In PRS type matches and BR, you are firing a group of shots normally. So if you are off and can get a good wind call based on dirt splash you can adjust and fire another one based on "chasing the wind".

My first F-Class scope was a Christmas tree reticle and I thought that I could just use the Horus Reticle Todd Hoddnett system of adjusting for wind based on the last call. It never works, as the wind data normally changes over the 1-2 minutes between marked targets.

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Originally posted by MikeBurke:

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Originally posted by Big Wonderful Wyoming:
Butch,

Because F-class targets are marked, it takes time between shots. So you can't really correct for wind based on the last shot.

In PRS type matches and BR, you are firing a group of shots normally. So if you are off and can get a good wind call based on dirt splash you can adjust and fire another one based on "chasing the wind".

My first F-Class scope was a Christmas tree reticle and I thought that I could just use the Horus Reticle Todd Hoddnett system of adjusting for wind based on the last call. It never works, as the wind data normally changes over the 1-2 minutes between marked targets.

If you are shooting F-class your shots are much quicker than 1-2 minutes apart. Only 20 minutes are allowed for 20 shots for record so you have to be under a minute between shots. Most shooters finish way under. I shoot High Power (sling and irons) which is the same course of fire and usually complete a string in 8 to 9 minutes with decent pit service. Shoot, watch the target come down in the sight to ensure follow through, while target is down eject round, place round in rifle, leave bolt back, watch flags, target up, close bolt, look at flags/mirage, make adjustment if needed, fire. Under 30 seconds easily. If you are shooting 10s and Xs pit service should take less than 10 seconds. My spotting scope is set where I only move my head slightly to get back on the rifle. The rifle generally never leaves my shoulder. I also do not waste time marking each shot number, location, etc in a book while shooting. If it is a local match and I have to keep score I will generally only write down scores that are not 10s.

That being said a lot can happen in 25 seconds with the wind. I generally set my spotting scope focus at about the two hundred yard berm. I will pick two flags with the range, shooting point, and wind direction determining which flags. If the wind is left to right I will watch flags on the left, as that is what is about to happen, flags on the right are past tense. And I watch the mirage, a lot. If my hold was good, the shot was were I called it, a quick peek on the scope and flags, make an adjustment or not, and shoot.

It has been several years since I shot seriously, however this year I hope to make high master Mid-range and at 53 years old go back to service rifle and chase my distinguished badge.

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Originally posted by butchlambert:
I certainly disagree, but that is OK.

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Originally posted by Big Wonderful Wyoming:
I know a lot of Queens Cup Match winners who will disagree with you. I was told to never base wind calls on the previous shot.

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Originally posted by HPMaster:
I was taught decades ago by my Dad to stay on the scope as much as possible between shots, always looking for the prevailing condition and always asking "is it the same or has something changed".

US, CMP and NRA High Power, small bore ec

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Originally posted by sputster:
Last weekend I shot in my first F Class Match, as an F-T/R shooter. I used my old Rem 700 VS with handloads of 168gr A-Max bullets over Varget, shooting at 500yd. While it was a good shooting experience, it was just as valuable learning from the old hands there. A guy on my lane shot a 6mm Dasher in open class, and besides being an outstanding shooter he was a good coach as well.

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Originally posted by sputster:
Last weekend I shot in my first F Class Match, as an F-T/R shooter. I used my old Rem 700 VS with handloads of 168gr A-Max bullets over Varget, shooting at 500yd. While it was a good shooting experience, it was just as valuable learning from the old hands there. A guy on my lane shot a 6mm Dasher in open class, and besides being an outstanding shooter he was a good coach as well.