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I've a nib model 70 featherweight barreled action in 7mm Mauser with 22" barrel. I see the complete rifle with stock for over $1000.
I guess I could subtract a couple hundred buck's?
What's it worth? Please
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Michael, CRF action I assume?
 
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Bucks. Subtracting for the stock will be the same no matter what it is. You could start there. Some guy was going crazy for a 7mm a while back.
 
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What is a CRF action?
This is a bolt action.
 
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CRF = Controlled Round Feed - Bolt looks like a pre-64 Model 70 or a 98 Mauser, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...ing%20after%20firing.


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Push feed
 
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Hold on; just because it has a claw extractor does not make a rifle a CRF; Ruger 77s had claw extractors, but were/are push feed.
But on a Model 70; it does.
Controlled round feed was developed by Mauser, for Turkey. Semi trained soldiers were less likely to jam it up.
 
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Controlled round feed was developed by Mauser, for Turkey.


Curious why you said Turkey?


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I didn't have time to go through the whole story of how the 93 Mauser came about. And you already know it; Mauser developed the 7x57, and the 93 (first CRF bolt), for Spain, but didn't make most of them; but Mauser Oberndorf made them for Turkey. So I just threw out the one who had the biggest Mauser contract; Turkey.
The real point is, that Germany did not feel the need to change from the Commission 88, to another model, for ten more years, whereas those countries with large semi trained, conscript armies, needed a more fool proof method of bolt action.
Modern shooters and hunters seem to be in much the same category, and wanting a CRF system, so they won't jam up their piece.
I, and the US Army, use push (smooth) feed rifles, and have learned how to correctly manipulate a bolt action rifle, and never have them double feed or jam.
 
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Controlled round feed was a feature Mauser came up with before he offered his 93 design to Spain or Turkey. But I suppose that is nit picking details that most people don't care about.

You ought to re-enlist in the Army and reteach them how to shoot push feed rifles. Quite a few of the Army guys and Marines I shoot matches with frequently have issues with double feeds, jams, and failure to extract with their push feeds.


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Ok, I never Enlisted in the Army, so I can't re-enlist. (Although I was in the Army (Armor Branch) for 28 years.) We don't have any bolt action rifles in Tank units, but we do have lots of machine guns; all the 7.62 M240s are push feed (GASP) and work very well (every tank has two). And, I can't help it if your shooting guys do not know how to operate a bolt action rifle; the fact remains that all bolt actions, and most machine guns used by the Army, are push feed and work fine. Training is the key. The only reason CRF was developed is so a soldier, under stress, won't jam his rifle if he doesn't fully lock his bolt down and retracts it. Civilian shooters and hunters should never have that problem if they will train; but I know many of them; they refuse to do that. So they blame the rifle when it is them. The German Army didn't need to change rifles for ten more years; their soldiers knew how to operate 88s. There are a lot more push feed rifles sold than CRF. I don't ever have any problems with my rifles, and I have quite a few Model 70s push feed; (they do operate much smoother), as well as 150 Mausers. Which also will cause more problems with untrained shooters trying to single load them.
It's a myth perpetuated by those who don't want to train on their equipment. Or whose reloads are not to spec. Those are the only problems I see at our range. Not an equipment fault.
 
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I am in all agreement with that. In addition to Peter Paul Mauser being a great firearm's innovator, he also made the 98, damned near idiotproof. The more you deal with it, you are faced with the utter perfect design + complete simplicity of it.
 
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Have you ever tried loading a round at a dead run chasing an animal, deer or buffalo or whatever with a push feed..??


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Atkinson:
Have you ever tried loading a round at a dead run chasing an animal, deer or buffalo or whatever with a push feed..?? Push feeds are acceptable in a deer stand, just not under stress..


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A popular Dangerous Game rifle is the Weatherby 460 wby mag .... its a push feed ... never heard of a problem with it.


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