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Has anyone had any luck yet with Boar in England. I keep seeing articles on it, but never hear of anyone actually getting to grips with one.
 
Posts: 261 | Location: Invercargill | Registered: 26 April 2004Reply With Quote
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SWS, no luck at all. I have been trying to find someone hosting paying guests for the past two years, no luck.

I have not seen any adverts on the WEB or in any of the magazines.

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No I havent either.

Think it may have to be a trip to mainland Europe for those. I know an aweful lot of land owners in Suffolk and no one has seen signs of them.
 
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SWS,

We have a few down our way in sussex, in fact one came out of a cover crop on a january pheasant drive this year. I stil haven't seen one while out stalking although we did statrle one in the bracken one night, but I think it was one of the nomadic males.

A mate shoots a few but he won't tell me where!!!

Rgds,
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FB

Definitley going to have to have them put on the ticket for the 7mm.

Bet that scared the hell out of the beaters!

SWS
 
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Blokes who knows the location of Boar are pretty tight lipped about it. We had a few escaped from a farm in Co Down a few years ago. A large boar was shot in someones garden in my general area at that time. I still don't know exactly where, or who did the deed.

Looks like I will have to bite the bullet and go to France or Poland.

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Big Grin

sws & C-D

Pardon my butting into your thread.....

Perhaps you should concentrate your stalking efforts at the Dover end of the Chunnel; maybe a couple got through with the refugees from Calais? roflmao

My attempt at a little bit of humor?

The Wild Boar poulation on the Continent has exploded the past couple of years so I think sitings and a population will establish itself in the UK. While the Channel is certainly a formidable obstacle to overcome as the Iron curtain fell along the West-East border areas which had no Wild Boar poulations at all were quickly saturated.


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My first instinct seeing the title of this thread was, someone is going to bash Tony Blair and his bunch.
I find it amazing that England still has wild boars! England, as small as it is and an island, I would have thought the boar was extinct.
How about bears?
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The boar were extinct for quite a while, but farmers diversified into Wild Boar and a few escaped and set up wild populations.

I remember reading an article in teh Field or Shooting Gazette and seem to recall someone offering Stalking for it in Dorset?

SWS
 
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I haven't seen any adverts but the guys that I know have taken the odd one have done so at night under the moon.

I've just rmemebered that a (sadly now deceased) keeper I knew at a mates syndicate shot a litter of piglets one night about 5years ago near galleywood. They guys have not seen them on the shoot ever since so I suppose that put an end to that!!

I can't wait untill they are kicking about in better numbers although I would think most farmers wouldn't agree...

Sounds like the ultimate BBQ meat!!

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Think we may have to get an AR trip together for a driven day at them.

I did get offered a good deal recently on them.

Off for a FITASC Shoot at Southdown this weekend, but going to nip off for some Roe stalking on Saturday night.
 
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If you prefer to take your chances on a Wild Boar in the UK - as opposed to travelling elsewhere in Europe, then please PM me. I can give you a contact who has an extimated 40+ Wild Boar ranging over his ground.

Personally, I reckon the chances of a good trophy and a more certain result, make it worth a trip to the more recognised areas in Europe.

Rgds Ian Smiler


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The boar were extinct for quite a while, but farmers diversified into Wild Boar and a few escaped and set up wild populations.


What a good idea. thumb


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Hi All,
nobody has mentioned Scotland, we went on a boar hunt 5 weeks ago and shot a 96kg Boar.
Escapee of course but he is not alone!!!
we have several running free and breeding quite well.....
long may it continue

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Sounds like the ultimate BBQ meat!!

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this I can definitely confirm. Roe deer is not bad but wild boar is definitely ... jummy!

Grill it very hot for some moments to close the pores and then over very litte heat, very slowly. Just don't shoot the males in winter, no good eating!
 
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Personally I think that a population explosion would be great for the image of hunters.
Farmers are in need of protection, and you can shoot a LOT of boar before worrying about affecting the population...
It is curious that no enterprising person hasn't set about spreading the 'plague'.
 
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Just don't shoot the males in winter, no good eating!


DUK,

That is not so (at least on my country)! Wild boar meat is fine all year round!
I hunt them all year and never noticed any difference in meat quality in connection with the season.
From one area to another, depending on the food available to the wild boars, there may be a difference in meat quality, but that is all.

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Fear not, Boghi, pigs are perfectly capable of spreading like oil all over a landscape without any further help. Just ask the California Dept of Fish and Game! Or Texas . . . anywhere in the American South . . . Australia . . . Hawaii, etc.


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I realy am looking forward to a few more of these escaping near to me.

Why is is the animal rights freaks released the mink and not these?

Managed to catch up with a nice cull roe buck on saturday night, saw 12 pretty good bucks, but this was the only one in the cull plan.

SWS
 
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SWS, if anyone wants to arrange a trip to a piggy hotspot, put my name on a place.

Regards


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Hi,

I'd like to hear the details too.... Any excuse to use the rifle with the open sights!!

FB
 
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Yeah, or a nice low range variable, a S&B 1.5-6x42 should be perfect.

Oh, and a 9.3x62 barrel for the Sauer.

Now, just to run it past the wife.

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CD,

I hadn't even thought of a new barrel.....
 
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Sounds like a possible goer then, what I got offered was:

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As promised these are costings for boar shooting in Czech Republic, as I told you there is plenty of boar there if you want trophy animals, then obviously the price increases depending on the animal this quote is for non trophy animals up to 40kg but none the less great fun and can be shot in numbers very cheaply.

Price includes transport and estate charges.
non trophy boar @ £150/EACH Minimum 25 boar Allowing 3.5 shots/boar There are incredible numbers of animals in the area and with five or six guns you could easily shoot 40 plus per day up to 60 in my opinion with some good tuskers if you wanted to .It is also possible to shoot pheasants in the same area if you wanted to."

Has anyone had any better offers for that?

I have shot clays at Konopiste, which is just near his grounds and the place is fantastic terraine wise.

Simon
 
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Big Grin

No self-respecting continental Piggie Basher would be without a 9.3x62 in his arsenal, the best Wild Boar caliber ever invented!

I had no idea that Wild Boar are establishing such a population in the UK, this is very good news indeed for UK nimrods - go get'em!


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Would a 7mm Rem Mag be upto the task?

If it ever turns up, been on order with sako now since november!
 
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Now, lets see if I'm getting this right. Lets say 2 days shooting, 60 - 70 pigs over the 2 days, 6 guys shooting. Lets say £10K between 6 for the 2 days, thats £1,670 each, or £835 per day. That cheaper than pheasant shooting in the UK.

Throw in an easyjet to Prague. You could do the whole thing for £2k, minus the new barrel.

When do we go?

Regards
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If any AR member happens to be coming to Portugal during the full moon period of any of the next three month, I would be happy to invite them to my hunting area for one night or two, free of charge!
I can also try to book them in other areas. Prices per night are between 100 and 150 Euro. In some areas you can keep the meat if you want to.

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Posts: 538 | Location: Lisboa,Portugal | Registered: 16 August 2001Reply With Quote
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B.Martins.

Thankyou for a generous offer. I will certainly be in touch one day - not this year however. In return, I would expect you to come over to England and enjoy our hunting! Smiler

Locally, we have Red, Roe, Fallow and Sika - I also have grounds with Chinese Water Deer and Muntjac.

Swap hunting is just one of the things that makes this forum the best on the net - Many thanks to Saeed.

rgds Ian.


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Or there is this as an alternative:

http://www.diana.dk/diana_jagt/pdf/samledrivjagt_zamrz_nov.pdf

Seems like good value.

Brian


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Cool

sws - A hunting buddy had a Remington 700 in 7mm Rem. Mag. with which he managed to tally a really immpresive count of very large Wild Boar while stationed in Berlin. The 7mm Rem. Mag. bashes piggies quite handily!

b.martins - What an extraordinarily generous offer! As son as I am back form Africa and can sort my calender out you will receive a PM from me!

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b.martins- wow what an incredibly kind offer.
As unfortunately apart from muntjac and a friends abundant population of Chinese Water Deer, I have very little to offer in return, and so would feel guilty taking you up on it. But thank you anyway.

Claret- the Diana one looks good, but gives no indication of what you would expect a day. Perhaps a chat with the representative at the game fair is in order?


SWS
 
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No self-respecting continental Piggie Basher would be without a 9.3x62 in his arsenal, the best Wild Boar caliber ever invented!


I agree. However, both the good, old 30/06 as well as the .338 are reasonable substitutes...

My biggest boar so far with 89 kgs. gutted literally fell to the tiny 6.5x57 R. I did NOT complain about not having full penetration...
 
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Gents, the 9.3x62 is a pipe dream. Don't even know if I could get the police to license one here. In reality, I would be perfectly happy using my .270win with 150gr bullets.

SWS, if you can speak to Diana at the CLA, it would be interesting to hear what they offer. I am in Northern Ireland so I don't get to any of the big English fairs. I did see some late availability offers on the Diana website last year where they needed 2 or 3 guns to make up a party of 8 - 10. If you could go at short notice, it was very reasonable.

Poland seems like good value. No trophy fees for the boar. I would like to know the anticapated bag for three days. I just know that if I went to the Czech republic and a huge old tusker went by, I am just going to have to try and shoot him. Some of the trophy fees I have seen are scary.

Likewise to Mr Martins, an outrageously generous offer, which I really could not reciprocate at the minute. In a few yesra time, who knows..

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DUK,

That is not so (at least on my country)! Wild boar meat is fine all year round!


Here, during the rut from mid November until January the big, breeding boars have a quite disgusting smell. It is in fact not so much the taste but when cooking the meat it smells, to different degrees, like pee; customers don't like so the meat is usually only good for sausage or has to be discarded.

Like you say, their food influences their consistence and taste, when eating a lot of corn (maiz), the fat tends to become a little greasy. Best is, it seems, when they feed mostly on acorns and beachnuts, like the famous pata negra pigs from Verdugo, Extremadura....

I'll spend some time this summer in your area with family and dog. Maybe we can arrange a regional AR members get-together, to drink some vinho verde and discuss pig hunting.
 
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We will be very pleased to have AR members hunting with us. It doesn’t matter if they can reciprocate or not, as we are not even considering that possibility!
Until end of September we hunt wild boar by moonlight.
In October the hunting season for red partridge, hare and rabbit will open, and so will the wild boar hunting in “montaria†(driven hunts with dogs).
The season for “montarias†goes until end of February, but partridge, hare and rabbit season will be closed before yearend.
So, if anyone is planning to come to Portugal during the hunting season, feel free to contact me and we can see what can be arranged.

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Hi BM,

I spent several years in Cyprus shooting the Patridges in the hills there. They really aree some of the most sporting birds I have ever encountered, and from the photo's you posted last year your shoots are similar.


CD,

The Diana Looks like great value and it would be great to find out what the projected bag is on these days. I don't know what is normal in these situations but sounds good. I actually have a cousin living in Poland who may be able to fix something up at local rates. I have not asked yet but just an idea.

Now on the subjuct of 9.3's and pip[e dreams.... Anyone for doubles??? jump

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Hi all

I understand You dream of boar.
If Martins in wonderful Portugal has not enough place I'll be pleased to invite You in France for quite nothing.
jb


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Today is the first day of June’s wild boar hunting period, and tomorrow night I am going hunting! The weather will be fine: clear sky, high moon, no wind and a pleasant temperature!
I hope the boars will not forget they have an appointment. Big Grin
Don’t you all wish you were here? Wink

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Just out of curiosity, how many days each side of full moon do you hunt? I have June Full Moon listed as 22/6, then 21/7, 19/8 & 18/9.
 
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