CZ 452 series. American for carrying, Varmint for shooting from the bench. They're inexpensive (relatively speaking) and well known for out of the box accuracy.
-Rick
Posts: 57 | Location: Tracy, CA | Registered: 26 April 2002
Depends on your budget, if it is tight, than look at Savage mark II, works fine, you can do a simple fix on the trigger and get a crisp little shooter.
Posts: 484 | Location: SLC, UT | Registered: 01 March 2003
On the real inexpensive side, you could check out the Romanian 22 surplus rifles. They shoot fairly accurately and sell for about $70.00. Not much to look at but they do work.
Posts: 1052 | Location: Southern OHIO USA | Registered: 17 November 2001
I second the opinion on the CZ 452. I bought the Lux model, paid $289, put a set of Millet rings/mounts and a Bushnell 4-12 Trophy on it. Accuracy has been amazing to put it mildly. I also modified the trigger to 2.5 lbs by installing a "Brookie" kit see CZ-452 Rifle Improvements
I ran a comparison of about 15 different brands of 22 ammo and even the cheapest WalMart special Winchester or Federals averaged 2" at 50 yards which is perfectly acceptable for casual plinking. Any of the higher quality target grade ammo averaged less than 3/4 to 1" at 50 yards. You can't go wrong with the CZ for the money. If you want to save some funds look at their standard models which are less expensive and have plain wood. I have been really happy with mine.
Although I don't own one; several of the rimfire silhouette shooters at my club own and shoot the CZ's successfully. I have shot one several times and the "funny looking" hogback stock comes to the shoulder well and the iron sights align very quickly. They shoot competitively in the iron sight bolt group. If you put a scope on one the stock may feel a little low as it seems to be designed with the amount of drop to align with the iron sights. The safety is odd though. I shoot an old Remington 510 targetmaster with a williams peep in iron sighted bolt. If you can find a 510 for under $150 in clean condition; that would be my choice.
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Posts: 230 | Location: Alabama; USA | Registered: 18 May 2003
The basic 452 CZ, 24 inch barrel. has a sight like on a Mauser on the middle of the barrel, and a basic hardwood stock, but only $199.00 at most good gun shops.
Seems from above the opinion is highly shared by other CZ 452 owners.
On mine's maiden field voyage, it shot over 1100 ground squirrels in two days and missed about 10% of the time, mainly at distance well in excess of 100 yds, but the follow up shots usually hit target when I did a little kentucky windage on them. Used a 2 x 7 Weaver rimfire scope on that trip, but since replaced with a Leupold, strictly because of eye strain after 2 days squinting thru a Weaver rimfire ( still is a good scope)
I agree with the CZ452 selectioin. It's one of the best. I believe this used to be marketed under the Brno name. Other good choices are the Anschutz and Kimber rifles, but these are rather pricey offerings. Best wishes.
Tasco74 - The Czech Republic has had a reputation for arms making that is unmatched. The first place Hitler invaded was that part of the world, primarily to get control of their arms-making facilities. I've owned and shot a variety of Czech-built arms since 1982 and I've never been dissatisfied. The pre-1990 pieces tend to be rather plainly finished, except for the wood. They still have access to Circassian Walnut, and if you win the Brno/CZ "lottery" you have a good chance of getting a truly marvelous piece of wood attached to your fine, accurate rifle.
I don't think you'll be disappointed, if you go Brno/CZ.
Tasco74 Looks like a blowout for the C.Z. 452. I have one in the American model and must agree with everyone else. If money is a big issue, the plainer training models with the euro type beech wood stock and mauser type iron sights are just as accurate and usually run under $200. In any configuration these rifles will outshoot anything costing up to 3 times the price, and the solid design and good materials will last more than one lifetime.
Ive got a Savage Mark II, it was $100,00 at Wal Mart. I put a set of 1" rings and a Weaver 4X scope on and its painfully accurate. If you can deal with a 22 with a tupperware stock its an excellent shooter.
Posts: 10189 | Location: Tooele, Ut | Registered: 27 September 2001
HUMMMM SAVAGE MARK II SOUNDS INTERESTING..... I LIKE TO BUY U.S. MADE STUFF IF I CAN AND EVEN BETTER IF IT'S LOCALLY MADE. ACCURATE IS IT?? I'LL LOOK INTO IT . THANX. BTW HOW LONG AGO WAS IT YOU GOT THIS RIFLE??
Did'nt Savage aquire Lakeside Mfg in Canada the mahers of .22 rifles a few years back.....My vote still goes to the CZ-452.....Keeps up with my Rem. 541 and bested my ruger 77/22.
The Marlin 880 is a fine gun, but might get a little heavy to carry around. I just picked up a Marlin 81TS for $149.00. It's a tube fed bolt action. Nice accuracy for the money and not quite as heavy as the 880 model.
Hollywood
Posts: 286 | Location: Capitol City TX | Registered: 06 April 2003
quote:Originally posted by Paul Reed: Tasco, I ran a comparison of about 15 different brands of 22 ammo and even the cheapest WalMart special Winchester or Federals averaged 2" at 50 yards which is perfectly acceptable for casual plinking. Any of the higher quality target grade ammo averaged less than 3/4 to 1" at 50 yards. Paul
2" at 50 yards??? Is this really what's expected from a cheap 22LR? My father-in-law recently left his ancient (55 year-old) single shot with me for a few months. It has a weird little bolt which, after closing, requires you to pull back on the knob sticking out the back to cock it. The trigger is dreadful, heavy with a long, notchy take-up. But here's the thing, it shoots well under 1" at 50 yards with PMC Scoremaster (40gr Solid Standard Velocity). I put 6 shots in a 1" black shootnsee patch, mostly in upper right quadrant. Several 3-shot clusters were touching, making ragged holes.
I couldn't believe my target the first time I really tested this rifle. Even at 100 yards it was just as good, consistently knocking 2" diameter steel disks off a piece of angle iron. I noticed none the tricked out 10/22s were shooting at those targets, I had them all to myself.
Now, if this Scoremaster stuff is more in the match grade end than the cheap plinker stuff, please disregard my post.
Posts: 557 | Location: Various... | Registered: 29 December 2002
I've got one of those rifles too. Mine's a Marlin Glenfield model and it also shoots pretty well, but I got an old, beat up, rusty J C Higgins from my grandfather that will outshoot any other 22 I've got. If you are not in a hurry you might cruise the pawn shops, garage sales and classified papers to see what kind of a bargain you luck into.
I have a Savage MK II LV Bull Barrel. I can't make it group more than an inch at 50 yards. On days when it's not too windy It'll put 3 shots in an inch at one hundred yards. I am very happy with the rifle even though it was made in Canada.
Paul
Posts: 105 | Location: Gulfport MS | Registered: 04 July 2002
quote:Originally posted by Paul Barnard: I have a Savage MK II LV Bull Barrel. I can't make it group more than an inch at 50 yards. Paul
Yes, the Savage Mark II BV is a great buy. It comes standard with a free floating heavy varmint barrel, is button rifled (not hammer forged), has a laminated stock, with full size weaver bases on a steel receiver (no .22 dovetail). Accuracy is amazing. Doping wind it will shoot under an inch at 100 yards with the right ammo. At 50 yards .25 to .5" groups are normal. I bought my son one for $220 but had to special order it as my dealer did not stock it. It wholesales for well under $200.
I also have a Savage mark 11 LV, and it is extremely accurate. It will shoot under half inch at 50yds with fed gold medal ammo on a calm day. I would highly recommend one, it only cost me 212.00 from walmart, (i had them order it).
Great gun
Posts: 165 | Location: BAKER CITY OREGON!!!!!! | Registered: 20 February 2003
I've had one for close to thirty years, and it has shot more than 50,000 shots (I can't find my notes -- that might be 70,000 shots) -- I used to shoot a lot of competition with it. NO repairs ever needed.
My Brno 452 replaced an Anshutz in Sporting Rifle competition -- it was more accurate!
Mine dates from 1966, and has quite a nice piece of Turkish walnut for a stock -- grain is good, but most importantly, it is hard and stable.
jpb
Posts: 1006 | Location: northern Sweden | Registered: 22 May 2002
CZ hands down. I have a CZ 452 varmint and a CZ 527 varmint, both outshoot my 26" Savage varmint, my Remington BDL, Remington Model 7, Remington VLS, almost as good as the Browning.
Posts: 411 | Location: Smack, in the middle of Oklahoma | Registered: 18 August 2003