Ok you bunch of Hero's, Flippy, DMB, bartsche, and Bobby Tomek, please provide the results of your carnage over at 24hourcampfire. Did you tear poor 'ole VG a new one? Was VG afraid of you gang members?

Vultures had better stick together against mean 'ole VG and other defenseless souls! Sad isn't it. You have lost sight of the facts. VG helped anyone that asked. No one has stepped up to take the place he left at the AR table in the Varmint forum. We will miss him and all other riflemen that leave us.

GO GET YOURSELF A HANDFUL OF VG LIVE FLESH at 24hourcampfire and let us know how that taste's compared to feasting on his dry bones here.

Long live the coyote!
Long live our way of life!
Hold into the wind.

quote:

Originally posted by Buliwyf:
…VG helped anyone that asked.

ONLY IF YOU AGREED WITH HIM.

quote:

Originally posted by Buliwyf:
No one has stepped up to take the place he left at the AR table in the Varmint forum.

Thank God!

Does Buliwyf stand for bullywife?
Sounds like VarmintGuy has a girlfriend…
Or this is his disgruntled wife! What a joke!

quote:

Originally posted by Buliwyf:
Ok you bunch of Hero's, Flippy, DMB, bartsche, and Bobby Tomek, please provide the results of your carnage over at 24hourcampfire. Did you tear poor 'ole VG a new one? Was VG afraid of you gang members?

Sorry, we could do that HERE if VarmintGuy had not used so much profanity in his “helping” of other AR members.
Click on the link below if you don't believe me.

I for one refuse to join another forum just to tell this dickhead how I feel.
I already did that YEARS AGO.


VarmintGuy--a**-sh*t-pee-f**k

AGAIN--this is what you get when you search these words (ass shit pee fu**) with the author VarmintGuy on the AR forums.

SEVEN PAGES


AGAIN this speaks volumes....

Why would anyone want to follow VG? He LOVED it when someone put him on ignore so he could go BEHIND THEIR BACKS and call them every name in the book -- not to mention insult their family members as well. And you talk about honor???

Give me a break.

VG may have had good info to contribute, but he had some serious issues of his own, not the least of which was being the classic coward veiled in disguise of a bully.

A quick perusal of his posts indicate that what irked VG most was when he was intellectually outclassed, which happened to be quite often. When he couldn't counter with facts or experience, off onto one of his infamous rants he went...

quote:

Originally posted by groundhog devastation:
I think the deal was that VG had a bit of a tiff with someone and he is no longer supposed to post here. It's a shame because VG was someone with a lot of knowledge and was willing to share it but I guess being forceful in his presentations was a bit much for some. GHD

GHD, forceful?!!
I agree he occasionally had some knowledge. However, that being said, he very often went entirely overboard in his vulgar attacks of anyone who disagreed with him. To the point that any knowledge he had was tainted by his asininity.

Your input on the other hand is always helpful AND positive, even when you disagree. Something that unfortunately cannot be said about VarmintGuy. VG was only willing to share his knowledge if you took EVERYTHING HE SAID AS GOSPEL. Heaven forbid you disagreed with him!

quote:

Originally posted by larrys:
I just got tired of searching through a five gallon bucket of s*#t to find a small pearl. I don't miss him.

Sorry GHD, but I have to politely disagree with you and I for one (actually MANY), am not sad he went away.

Flippy wrote:

quote:

Heaven forbid you disagreed with him!

That sums it up perfectly!

And you are right about GHD: He is a great guy, has tons of info to offer and is CIVIL should a debate arise. The same can't be said about you-know-who...

Buliwyf, you're funny and thanks for the good laugh. I hope he was giving you the common curtiousy of a reach-around while he was feeding you his wisdom, or maybe you were giving him the ole hairy bob-slob from time to time, which is fine with me and really none of my business. I dunno but it sounds like a man crush to me!

Oh and just for the record, VG did have some good info and numerous hilareous posts from time to time if you followed the following advice:

quote:

quote:
Originally posted by larrys:
I just got tired of searching through a five gallon bucket of s*#t to find a small pearl. I don't miss him.

I really wonder if VG knows he has allo of this notariety going on over here...

I am active on 24 HR also, so I read his posts all the time..

There are a lot of posts on here from guys that I respect a lot that didn't like him much.....

I personally enjoyed the spirited way he wrote about stuff...

We all have our idiosyncracies.. but I guess to the forum in general I'd have to say, I have learned a lot, and enjoyed sharing a lot of stuff with a wide variety of folks on AR here.. and the same over at 24 HR...

It has personally been my pleasure to know each of you guys... thru the good and the bad, thru the ups and the downs...

My life has truly been enriched by ALL the guys here on AR and 24....

and that includes VG and all the guys who think he was a dink also..

I have never joined in these pointless deals but I really enjoyed VG too. Some people just need to not be Mommas Boys and get riled up over things typed over the internet. Jesus come on "Mommy he said something I didn't like so lets gang up and kick him out of our club!!". I thought this was America where we are supposed to able to say what we want. I know this is a privately run site and I love it w/ all my heart but some people need to grow up and grow a pair. I had a disagreement once on here but it never made it on the public forums and never got to the point of having to tatle tale on each other. Like I said I love this site!!! I spend more time on here learning and enjoying stories than any other site. I thought we were grown men.

quote:

Originally posted by K20350:
I have never joined in these pointless deals but I really enjoyed VG too. Some people just need to not be Mommas Boys and get riled up over things typed over the internet. Jesus come on "Mommy he said something I didn't like so lets gang up and kick him out of our club!!". I thought this was America where we are supposed to able to say what we want. I know this is a privately run site and I love it w/ all my heart but some people need to grow up and grow a pair. I had a disagreement once on here but it never made it on the public forums and never got to the point of having to tatle tale on each other. Like I said I love this site!!! I spend more time on here learning and enjoying stories than any other site. I thought we were grown men.

Where do I begin…

First, this is NOT AMERICA! Saeed OWNS this site. It is a PRIVATELY OWNED SITE, as you pointed out in your next sentence, after saying:

quote:

I thought this was America where we are supposed to able to say what we want.

UAE maybe, not America.

Next, growing up is the point. The context of most if not all of VG rants was high school at best.
Neither growing nor having balls isn't the point. Having TACT is.

quote:

Originally posted by K20350:
I thought we were grown men.

For the most part. However, telling someone they are a stupid fu**ing idiot is not what many would call grown up behavior.
And the saying, “showing your ass” (one of VG’s favorites) makes no sense whatsoever.

quote:

Originally posted by K20350:
I had a disagreement once on here but it never made it on the public forums and never got to the point of having to tatle (sic) tale on each other.

Third, obviously you never disagreed with VG!
You claim to have had a disagreement ONCE? WOW! A new world’s record!

Well, if you don’t count VG’s record of NEVER BEING WRONG.

Now go run and tell your mommy that a man on the internet is being mean to you!

What a joke!

VarmintGuy--a**-sh*t-pee-f**k

YET AGAIN--this is what you get when you search these words (ass shit pee fu**) with the author VarmintGuy on the AR forums.

SEVEN PAGES


AND AGAIN this speaks volumes....

K20350 wrote:

quote:

I thought we were grown men.

Yes we are, and we all should behave that way, right? VG didn't -- and as a direct result of such, he is no longer here.

End of story...

Do I have this right? VG is still being VG, but IS being tolerated on 24 hour campfire? If he was too 'in your face' here, why not there?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by seafire2:


I personally enjoyed the spirited way he wrote about stuff...QUOTE]

Spirited? John! How spirited would you have considered it if it had been you he called a "cowardly cock sucker"?

You guys White Wash VG. all you want to and than go and do a little character and maturity introspection. What a distastefull joke. ROGER

I haven’t noticed anytime “over the top” by VG on 24hour Campfire like some of the stuff he posted here. But I don’t follow his posts, and he doesn’t travel in all the same forums I do. The Campfire is not afraid of kicking someone off their site if they get too outrageous. So far he’s still there.

I'm not sure Jimmy Hoffa got this much attention!?!

quote:

Originally posted by Bob in TX:
I'm not sure Jimmy Hoffa got this much attention!?!

Bob, he fired some people up with his insults, and he was good at that from time to time (people don’t forget things like that). I never got a full frontal personal attack from VG, but I read a few.

Buliwyf / VG is just old feelings.

Thanx for the typed attack that you were so worried about. My point was being that just ignore them. I drive truck and hear morons and a-holes all day long on the CB. If "stupid f-ing idiot" is the worst I heard I would think it was sunday. I disagree w/ 99% of what I hear but when I do I just take that little volume knob and twist it all the way to the left. Sticks and stones LOL

PS: "My Dad always said A-holes are people too!"

Nobody ganged up on VG.

Saeed saw a post of another person who quoted VG and banned that original poster. Once Saeed figured out what happened he unbanned the original poster, then reviewed VG's previous posts and banned him.

quote:

Originally posted by K20350:
...I just take that little volume knob and twist it all the way to the left. PS: "My Dad always said A-holes are people too!"

That's exactly what Saeed did.
He turned the volume of HIS RADIO all the way to the left...

A-holes may be people, too. However, this is not your Dad's site, now is it?

quote:

Originally posted by bartsche:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by seafire2:


I personally enjoyed the spirited way he wrote about stuff...QUOTE]

Spirited? John! How spirited would you have considered it if it had been you he called a "cowardly cock sucker"?

You guys White Wash VG. all you want to and than go and do a little character and maturity introspection. What a distastefull joke. ROGER

Roger,

VG has been on my case and more than once.. and made no bones about name calling toward me...

however, I learn to take such things with so many grains of salt.. water off of a ducks back...

many times I am not going to run my day revolving around some negative comments some guy slung at me on the internet...

at times it can bother me a while... but I learn to get over it..

folks I have considered friends have pissed me off on here also.. but I try not to let it cloud my outlook on the forum...

no one is making me read posts I don't want to read...

more than enough guys have taken pot shots at me besides VG...

but I have also had a lot of good support from guys I don't personally know either....

its a two way street, and I figured this out long ago...

you never really win arguments with a friend... you may prove a point, but you lost a friend...
was the point worth it???

I have to answer NO in many cases, so I don't do it...

I have had people piss on me publically and then apologized privately... not wanting to do so publically... I honor that most of the time...

you've gotten real testy with me also on here Roger, and I will admit have pissed me off more than once...

you've also done things for me that were up and beyond the call of friendship.. I remember the day I got to spend at the range with you down in Calif.. and to meet some of your shooting buddies and had a great lunch with you...

That is the Roger Bartsche I let rule my image of you, not the things we may disagree on...

VG as an example.. I keep the good and disgard the not so good...and granted he could dish out a lot of not so good.. but he has also extended me an invitation to visit him when in Montana, and I actually was in his home town and called him.. his wife said he was in Seattle at the time... but when he got home, I got an email from him apologizing for not being home and being able to extend some hospitality my way....

No I consider the guy another friend, even if I don't always like his style.. he has other styles I do like...

guess it just reflects our outlooks toward life in general..

Seafire, while I admire your ability to look past the obvious transgressions of your friends, I must disagree.
While I too have had friends occasionally "piss me off" what differs is the manner in which they communicated their feelings.

I have never had a friend call me a cowardly c*cksucker, a stupid motherf*cker or a f*cking a**hole in any way but jest. If they truly felt this way about me they would cease being my friend. There are simply too many quality people out there I call friends, and many more I haven't met yet to settle for "seconds" or go through all that drama.

While I am anything but thin skinned, life is too short to be filled with crap, no matter how "good" a friend they are (or WERE?).


---Mike

quote:

Originally posted by seafire2:

quote:

Originally posted by bartsche:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by seafire2:


I personally enjoyed the spirited way he wrote about stuff...QUOTE]

Spirited? John! How spirited would you have considered it if it had been you he called a "cowardly cock sucker"?

You guys White Wash VG. all you want to and than go and do a little character and maturity introspection. What a distastefull joke. ROGER

Roger,

VG has been on my case and more than once.. and made no bones about name calling toward me...

however, I learn to take such things with so many grains of salt.. water off of a ducks back...

Sorry ,Johh, I don't intend to play the role of a sponge. You do what you think best. roger

Well Guys,

if I held everything against folks who I thought were being buttheads, I guess I would care for that many people in life period...

as it is now, I have more use for most dogs compared to most people...

I guess I will make an exception for most fellow shooters, moreso than I will someone who isn't...

and as Roger eludes to, I guess we all have to let our conscience be our guides...

quote:

Originally posted by seafire2:
as it is now, I have more use for most dogs compared to most people...

A BIG 10-4 on that!

Hello graybird,

You are the sorry laugh. How did you fare with VG over at 24hourcampfire you no-load round mouth?

Take your flat knees over to 24hourcampfire and speak directly to VG and give us a report you no tooth mother.

Only air and opportunity graybird. You CSCS.

Buliwyf wrote: "Take your flat knees over to 24hourcampfire and speak directly to VG and give us a report you no tooth mother.

Only air and opportunity graybird. You CSCS."
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Buliwyf-

All the time you spend with VG must have allowed his "style" to rub off. You are sounding more and more like him with every post. There was absolutely nothing of value in that post of yours above; it simply allowed you to beat your chest, spew vile venom and show your true colors.

quote:

Originally posted by Bobby Tomek:
Buliwyf wrote: "Take your flat knees over to 24hourcampfire and speak directly to VG and give us a report you no tooth mother.

Only air and opportunity graybird. You CSCS."
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Buliwyf-

All the time you spend with VG must have allowed his "style" to rub off. You are sounding more and more like him with every post. There was absolutely nothing of value in that post of yours above; it simply allowed you to beat your chest, spew vile venom and show your true colors.

Bobby, you hit the nail on the head!

Buliwyf is VarmintGuy!

Buliwyf registered two months before VG was ousted from the forums... Coincidence? Naaah.

VG must have known what was to come!

Sorry VG, I'm not sure why you want to come back. We've been just fine with out you.
Maybe to seek revenge on the 16 year old kid that got you bounced?

WAFDAMFCSLLSOB

There VG now all you have to do is cut and paste...


VarmintGuy--a**-sh*t-pee-f**k

YET AGAIN--this is what you get when you search these words (ass shit pee fu**) with the author VarmintGuy on the AR forums.

SEVEN PAGES


AND AGAIN this speaks volumes....


VarmintGuy's last day on AR

If he's waiting for revenge, he may have a while to wait. That kid's family currently works on a large ranch in the southwest, and because of its remote location, there is no internet access available. They go in to town every few weeks for supplies, and from a public library's terminal, he does get to send e-mail. But he can't get on to a couple of his favored forums from there.

Dreamstohunt247 did not get to hunt much at all this past season after breaking an arm (along with a suffering few other injuries) while hauling hay in the early fall. I am a little cloudy on the details, but apparently a load shifted out in the field while he was atop it, and he and the bales came crashing down.

I have a feeling he'll soon be making up for lost time, though.

quote:

Buliwyf is VarmintGuy!

Buliwyf registered two months before VG was ousted from the forums... Coincidence? Naaah.
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DA-DA and a little drum roll. Golly am I surprised? The next question is, " how many handles does he have on AR"? roger

Certainly a thought Bartsche huh? Really pathetic if that's the case .
For whatever reason the man seemed to desperately need to bully anyone with even a slight difference of opinion from him and again I find that kind of deep seated emotional insecurity pathetic, worthy of pity and yes, compassion.
If he is living such an empty/lonely/desperate existence as to need to sneak back here on this website where he spent so much time and "IF" he can do so in a manner that is civil and within bounds let him. Probably be good for him and he always seemed like such an unhappy/angry little man. I can't wish that on anyone. If he gets back on and can't internalize some behavior change he'll get bounced again. I wish him well as long as he's not exercising his internal demons on some new shooter that perhaps is foolish enough to like his new Savage or something horrid like that.

Well, this thread certainly has outlived its usefullness.

It is closed.

Don