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I'm looking into the 22-250 for coyotes and wood chuck hunting here in the northeast, New York to be specific. I have a Savage 99 in .243 which I inherited and shoots 100 gn Hornady sp .75 moa @ 100 yds. Here in the northeast the winds can be substantial during coyote season, and the .243 seems to shoot well in the wind. Will the 22-250 shoot as well in wind? What rate of twist 1 in 14 or 1 in 12 is best to stabalize a heavier bullet? Should I go with the 26 inch barrel or 22 in.? I also like shooting paper and working up loads and like real tiny groups. I like speed but it doesn't necessarily give you accuracy. I don't know why but I just want a Savage Predetor with the accutrigger in 22-250. This is my dilema any suggetions would be greatly appreciated. | ||
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The 1:14" twist will work best with 50-55 grain bullets so I wouldn't recommend it for any real windy areas if you are shooting more than a couple of hundred yards. I'm building a long range 22.250 using a 26" PacNor 3 groove supermatch barrel with a 1:10" twist for 70 grain bullets. (If I can find my barrel, we're building a new house right now and I don't know where I put it in storage) Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Cototoes... are those related to Tomatoes or potatoes??? Hi Pete, welcome to the forums.. I shoot both calibers, and in a variety of rifle with a variety of twists to either caliber... What you have right now, if more than perfect for the job... I have half a dozen 243s, a couple of 6mm Rems and 4 different 22.250s, even with a fast twist to shoot 75 and 80 grain bullets... if I was going out with ya, I'd grab the rifle that was pretty much exactly what you have now..loaded with 75 grain HP Hornadys.. my favorite 6mm bullet.. While I love the 22.250, and shoot it a lot... the 243 in a Savage Predator is high enough on my list, that one of these rifles is going to be traded off, and replaced with just that same rifle in a 243 Predator... if they chambered it in 260 Rem, it would be my new deer rifle...camo'ed or not..the camo looks cool, but I like the 24 inch heavy magnum contour for a field rifle...balanced by a decent synthetic stock... or a laminate, which is a little heavier.. I sure hope they expand their Predator chambering offerings...one is a 260 or 7/08 would be kinda "peachy keen'.... cheers seafire Life Member: The American Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Jan 20, 2009.. Prisoner in Dumocrat 'Occupied America', Partisan in the 'Save America' Underground Beavis..... James Beavis..... Of Her Majesty's Secret Service..... Spell Check Division "Posterity — you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it." John Quincy Adams A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him "Why do you carry a 45?" The Ranger responded, "Because they don't make a 46." Duhboy....Nuttier than Squirrel Poop... | |||
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My 22-250 is my go to predator rifle. The Savage has a 1:12 twist. This is really pretty simple. If you want a carry gun get a 22"-24" sporter barrel. If you want to shoot off bags and send a lot of rounds down range get a longer, fluted heavy barrel. Bob There is room for all of God's creatures....right next to the mashed potatoes. http://texaspredatorposse.ipbhost.com/ | |||
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Thanks to all for the input, looks like 22in barrel with 1 in 12 will do the trick for the heavier bullets, but if all agree the .243 will do as good a job, maybe I better look at another caliber. | |||
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On chucks your 22-250 will be all that you need and give you good service, For coyotes the 22-250 is a good round, the 243 is a great round. (When I was a kid my father used to tell me that God hated a coward, I finally realized he has even less use for a fool.) | |||
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Here in the northeast the winds can be substantial during coyote season, and the .243 seems to shoot well in the wind. Will the 22-250 shoot as well in wind? MAYBE. The .22/250 as a rule uses lighter bullets that blow more easily. Standard twists are not for the wind buckers in the 70 grain plus. You need to ponder this at great length. You can get lighter 6mm bullets. At the same time, .243 burns alot of powder. That increase cost and decreases barrel life (not the the '250 is long on barrel life). What rate of twist 1 in 14 or 1 in 12 is best to stabalize a heavier bullet? 1 in 14 usually runs out about the 63 grain really round nosed bullets by Sierra? 1 in 12 might get you a bit more, but the military long bullets are using 1 in 10 and faster. Should I go with the 26 inch barrel or 22 in.? Targets/paper? Or you plan to walk alot. Those 26 inches get heavy fast. Bull barrels faster. But from a rest... Walking around? 22. I also like shooting paper and working up loads and like real tiny groups. Good for you. I like speed but it doesn't necessarily give you accuracy. Right. I don't know why but I just want a Savage Predetor with the accutrigger in 22-250. Great choice, but does it suit the use? LUCK!. | |||
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To me it would depend on if you are wanting to limit pelt damage. I have coyotes with my .22-250's quite a ways out with no problems but the wind is trickier than with higher B.C. bullets. The .243 with high B.C. bullets will pound them way out there but pelt damage is substantial. For chucks anything you shoot well works, but a long day of it can get old and expensive shooting bigger guns. I use a .223 up to big game calibers for coyotes depending on the mood and fur prices. Where I live now 'yotes are worth zero so I use my .25-06 with 117gr Hornady SST's while my boys carry lighter guns. The .223 has dropped many coyotes and in the wind it's hard to get the sound to travel very far. Because of this I'd recommend it and playing long range with the .243 Win. | |||
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Pelt damage will be the deciding factor. I'm Very partial to the .243 I'm just a few hours north of you and find the preformance on chucks great....see my post here https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5411043/m/535103088 On yotes the exit wounds can be messy but you sure can reach out farther then the 22-250. Of course do you really need an excuse for a new rifle? I am a Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, or free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and all mankind. - John Diefenbaker (From the Canadian Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960.) | |||
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The .243 is a great Coyote gun. About any 70 to 75g HP or BT will drop them right in their tracks. With regard to the .22-250, which can also be a good Coyote gun, what do you consider a heavier bullet? My .22-250 is a 1:9 twist and does really well with 69g bullets, it does OK with 75g bullets. It shoots 55g bullets almost into one hole - one little tiny clover leaf shaped hole. I am working on a load for a 1:12 or 1:14 twist Model 70 for my brother in law. It seems to like 52g bullets better than 55g bullets. Fitch | |||
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