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Hey guys was away the last couple of days and got a chance to shoot a few bunnies 2 with my 22-250rem Win Mod 70 and one with my 22lr CZ 452 American. Win Mod 70 22-250 rem:  CZ 452 American 22lr:  First bunny shot in the morning he was having a late brekky at the time:  Here he is still had some in his mouth:  I went down again in the afternoon and bumped this one off after missing another one with the 22-250 was able to use this one for the table:  This bunny was head shot with my 22lr from about 50metres was the only shot I fired from my 22lr whilst I was away! I had just finished cleaning the rabbit in the previous picture and I spotted this one and made a quick trip back to get my 22lr and he had moved a bit but was a good shot and resulted in 2 bunnies for the table!  Not that many rabbits around this time, hopefully next time I can bump off some more! Just doing my bit for the environment  !Now.... how to cook that underground mutton mmmm More Photo's can be found on the Picture Gallery @ Hunters Hut | ||
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Hi kjd84,welcome to the forum. From looking at your pics,I have one question. Is the .22-250 enough gun for these critters?  My Strength Is That I Can Laugh At Myself, My Weakness Is That I have No Choice. | |||
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Thanks mate! Haha I think it may be! The 22-250 I used was a sporter and I am getting a dedicated bunny buster a Win Mod 70 Heavy Varminter in 222rem Shouldnt make as much of a mess but still be messy especially when I start using the 50gr Vmax LoL! But misting the little ferals is fun | |||
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 kjd84,Welcome aboard! Great photos, the guns are O.K. too, send more photos of those Roland Ward rabbits in various poses......  I understand those down-under rabbits can be pretty vicious when cornered, I suggest Robert Ruark's work, "Use Enough Gun".....  Cheers, Gerry Cheers, Number 10 | |||
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Thanks for the welcome Gerry! Will make sure I will post more pics mate! It's just a bit of fun, can shoot the bunnies from farther away and its a bit of luck if you can still eat them afterwards! What do you shoot in Germany varmint and game wise? Have always wanted to visit Germany, I have an interest in WWII and love playing Medal of Honor and that sparked my interest. But Germany seems to have some beautiful country-side and old towns that I would love to see! | |||
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kjd84, .....the wheels are already turning, you've never been to Germany.....and I've never been to Australia.....? Quickly, send either a picture of your wife or more posing bunnies! Germany offers much, some great  and some not so good.....  The tradition, culture, the forests, hunting are all great and there's plenty to see and do, let alone the countless beer, wine & schnapps sorts that require extra special attention to detail to ensure a REALLY good one doesn't escape.....The hunting is excellent here, for big game primarily Wild Boar, Roe, Fallow and Red Deer. The most common small game - rabbits, hares, pheasants, pigeons, ducks & geese with the odd badger & raccoon thrown in. The varmint critter of choice is the Fox and we shoot many of them. The best time for Foxes is December & January with snow and moonlight - lamping is illegal so you need the moon & snow for visability to hunt all night. My best effort was 5 foxes in one night and I still managed to make it to the pub! Be nice to me and I'll entertain you with stories of "The Fatherland!" Cheers, Gerry Cheers, Number 10 | |||
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LOL, Not married and dont have anymore photo's of bunnies posing... Next time I shoot I will take plenty of photo's! I'll be nice as I'd love to hear some German hunting stories! Do you have MSN mate or ICQ? If so and want to have a chat just private message me your msn address or ICQ #! The moonlight & snow shooting of a night sounds very interesting.. cold but sounds like a totally new experience then what I'm use to.. What sort of set up would you use for shooting of a night on snow? Scope? no scope? What does your gun cabnit consist of? I have a RWS Rapier pcp airgun CZ 452 22lr Winchester 22-250 XTR sporter SMLE No4 mk II Sporterised 303brit and am awaiting a 222rem heavy varmint Winchester Model 70 Wouldn't mind to get a hold of a good 98 mauser | |||
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I use to go jackrabbit shooting at night(legal to spotlight them here)and I used 58 grain cast bullets in .22 centerfires. Velocity was 2000-2200fps and those cast bullets did a number. Was shooting from inside a pickup and the cast bullets kept the blast down too. Vitually no recoil. | |||
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kdj84,You should have recieved a PM from me. The Fatherland is '98 Mauser paradise, I'm a lefty, so pretty peculiar that what goes into my gun safe is L/H user friendly. If not, I'd probably own as many '98 Mausers as I could afford. Currently I'm in the middle of a 9.3x62 Mauser frenzy but when you make it to Germany I can assure you - you WILL NOT be disappointed at the 98 Mauser availability - in virtually any variation & caliber. If you are patient, the used gun market here offers tremedous opportunity to pick up a really choice piece or two.... The 9.3x62 & Mauser action is about the greatest piggie basher combo made today, it's funny that the Germans & Africans have made it their favorite since 1905 and the rest of the world is slowly catching on. While not exactly considered a long-range proposition I'd not hesitate to boom all the way out to any reasonable hunting range. After all HUNTING is the "getting close" bit - shooting is simply tugging the trigger. I've also got a .222 Remington Heavy Barrel, a Keppeler that is a super vermin boomer wearing a Leupold 3-12x40. I shoot Hornady 50 grain V-Max's and Speer TNT HP's to the dismay of countless Foxes every year, fantastic accuracy - just thinking of the rabbit photos..... Cheers, Gerry Cheers, Number 10 | |||
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Gerry, You have an email from me mate! You PM was an interesting read! The fox hunting at night with no lights just using the snow and the moonlight sounds like a real experience! Carpetman, What is your primary .22 centrefire? Sounds interesting with the cast 22's what was lead fowling like? Bet you they expand really well! | |||
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kjd84---The primary .22 I used was a 22-250. But with the cast bullets,I shot them about same velocity(2,000-2200fps)as I did cast in .222. Both of those seemed to shoot cast very well with about any load I tried. I have a .223(Win mod 70)that is probably my most accurate jacketed bullet shooter,but I have found no cast load it shoots worth a darn. I did not recover any of the bullets that were used shooting jacks,but they will expand very little at those velocities. I also drop them into water as I cast which makes them harder and decreases the expansion even more. You ask about leading, that would make me bet you have not used cast bullets. That myth seems to perpetuate. I have shot cast bullets in my .243 to 2900fps and get NO leading. I do use good lube(FWFBL--Felix World Famous Bullet Lube--a homemade lube recipe developed by a poster on these boards(Felix)--another post). Any leading I have ever had is easily removed with brushing. Get a Lyman reloading manual and read what they say about cast bullets(they sell casting equipment,so include cast bullets in their manual). Their take on them highly influenced me to start casting. Basically,how many .22 rimfires have you seen with shot out or leaded barrels? That's what they shoot. | |||
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Now, I understand that with a 22-250, no drawing is necessary ... but doesn't it make tham hard to skin? Put your nose to the grindstone, your belly to the ground, and your shoulder to the wheel. Now try to work in that position! | |||
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welcome kjd84. Can't have enough of you practical but crazy Aussies on the forum. Those shot with the 22/250, all you need is to do is throw them in a pot of boiling water and have Hairy Rabbit stew. Then are already cut up enough. I hit a rabbit with my toyota the other day, and the 22/250 did a lot more damage than my toyota according to your picture. My take on it, is use the 22 LR if you want table fare, and the 22/250 if you want to just have fun. Cheers and good shooting seafire | |||
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Seafire, Hehe Thanks for the welcome mate! Hairy rabbit stew... mmmmm My favourite not lol. Yeah mate I used the 22-250 just to see how some new handloads go (well ok I would have shot them with the 22-250 anywyas who am I kidding? IT's FUN). Thats it mate 22lr for the pot and 222 223 22-250rem or bigger for fertlizer. The cars dont seem to knock rabbits up that much if you dont run them over with your tyres. I often think about going back and skinning and gutting a rabbit after I have hit it but its usually late at night and its the last thing I want to do. jlongo, Very hard to skin mate hehe Carpetman, I have NO idea on casting or cast loads although I'd Imagine they'd make great low velocity loads! Thanks for the Insight might have to buy a rifle and some casting equipment. Do you buy new lead or just try and get lead flashing? Cheers Fella's | |||
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kjd: where carpetman was speaking of reduced loads, you can also accomplish the same thing, with jacketed bullets. I do that often for the kids. Load a 223 or 22/250 down to 22 LR or 22 Mag velocities. A lot of times if you buy the bullets just right, like 55 gr FMJs, it can actually be cheaper than shooting 22 Mags, and a lot more accurate. Hollow points make a dandy bullet for downloads. Lymans Black powder or Cast bullet manual has some reference for some great loads. If you don't have access, post a question on the forum and I am sure you can get a lot of responses from others that do that sort of thing. I do it frequently my self. cheers and good shooting seafire | |||
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That one pic of the instant rabbit jerky reminded me of the vid trailers at dogbegone.com... I'll bet lots of you have checked out that site. Bunnies, varmints, different? Yes. Resulting doom from superfast .22 bullets? Same. | |||
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I shot a bunch of rabbits in NZ when I was there. That is a lot of fun. | |||
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If someone gives me a hint on how to post photographs I'll show you that at a humble.223 Remmingtyon 700 VS does a pretty good job at not only shooting the bunny (out ot 480 paces) but gutting it at the same time with Remmington Accutips (50 gr boat tail)out to about 300 paces! Don't need no loud 22/250 to do that. Even have to be carful headhshooting at close range as it takes away a fair amount of the surrounding area The bunny I shot at 50 m in the chest on the weekend must have been crossed with a snake - when I went to see him he didn't have any forelegs - or chest for that matter acouple of his friends took their internals out for airing while they had a rest. Interestingly the fox at 120m - there was no exit wound when shot lengthways. He was looking at me at the time - he had seen the movement as I went down behind the rifle (sitting on a new harris S bipod aimed along the fenceline) but with full Auscam (not a look I choose to share with people) he couldn't make out what I was. Scared the dickens out of the 20 Roos and wallabies and a couple of Emu I'd let amble out to graze on the fields before the fox came out. very peacful with the animals and multicoloured grass lorrikeets as well as a technicolour sunset. Melbourne Australia Varminting | |||
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22-250 isnt "LOUD" IMO I have no problems with it and I don't know what people are talking about when they call it "Loud" its a deeper boom then a crack and I prefer the boom. Anyways mate LoL I'll back my 22-250 as a bigger mess maker then the 223 anyday! I wasn't even using varmint projectiles with that one!  | |||
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