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| I bought a Remington ADL in 223 a couple of months ago, with a little trigger adjusting and cleaning up the bedding the rifle shoots into 3/4ths of an inch or less with most bullets. A good shot shouldn't have any trouble taking deer with the 223 either. If you reload Winchester 748 is a good powder and my favorite bullets are the 52-53 grain HP's from Speer, Hornady and Sierra. My deer bullet is the Hornady 60 grain HP or SP pushed to 3000 fps and keep shots under 150 yards, hit em in the ribs and he's yours. |
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| You want to get a varmint gun that shoots accurately and at least cost!! Get yourself the Remington ADL Synthetic!! I have yet to find one IN ANY CALIBER!!!! 223-30-06 that wouldn't shoot MOA or less at 100 yards! If it doesn't shoot to suit you then you still have a 700 action to build off of! GHD |
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| remington in .223. ammo is so cheap you can't hardly justify reloading except for the added smigen of accuracy and the self satisfaction of rolling your own. The .243 is too big for a varmint gun and is a shitty deer calibre. |
| Posts: 2037 | Location: frametown west virginia usa | Registered: 14 October 2001 |
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| Here's one more for the M700 in 223. Shoot that Federal stuff through it (not the 69 grainers though, may not stabilize), and you'll be plenty happy.
As for the Ruger being CRF, look carefully. Not all are, even though they have the same extractor. |
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| as far as feeding system being better, that would depend on what you consider better. the mauser 'controlled feed' can be more reliable, and that is why it is used almost exclusively on big game and hunting guns. as far as accuracy (and with varmints, that is the name of the game), it is not the preferred choice generally. i dont think ive ever seen a benchrest rifle built on a mauser styly bolt, nor are most target rifles. the reason is that the control feed extractor puts additional pressure on that side of the case, which is a detriment to accuracy. that is why most target style guns are built on remington or push feed bolts. |
| Posts: 21 | Location: dallas,tx | Registered: 08 February 2003 |
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| My 7.82x51 bench rifle is built on a commercial Mauser action(post war) and it shoots way better than I do. derF |
| Posts: 3450 | Location: Aldergrove,BC,Canada | Registered: 22 February 2003 |
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| Opps,pardon me,I should know better than to try to type with the wrong glasses on. I meant 7.62x51. The reason for that chambering was to allow me to use a variety of Mil-Surp rounds as well as 308. derF |
| Posts: 3450 | Location: Aldergrove,BC,Canada | Registered: 22 February 2003 |
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| I thought you wound up with a Swift? |
| Posts: 286 | Location: Gladdice,Tn | Registered: 17 January 2003 |
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| Of your listings I would take the Remington. I personally avoid Ruger because of a poor history with them. However, you may want to consider the CZ Varminter with the HS stock. It has a controlled feed, a detachable five round magazine and a single set trigger. I own two CZ 223s and both are sub MOA with good ammo. One thing to consider. With the controlled feed the ammo must be chambered from the magazine. Some varminters shoot single shot style by just dropping a round in and closing the bolt. This can not be done with a controled feed. |
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