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23 January 2010, 22:09
JD Miller
Finding the right Beer?
I recently started trying different beer. I started with budwieser light and thought it was good, but not extremely smooth. Then I tried Coors light Very tasty much more smooth. I bought heiniken last night and tried it. Probably the smoothest of the 3, but the taste just isn't for me! I read the last thread on beer and am wondering if beers from the same area tend to taste similar? Since budwieser is from bush should I stay away from others from this area? Since I like samual adams and st pauli girl both from the highlands should I look for others from the highlands? What other beer might I like from my findings thus far?
23 January 2010, 22:36
tasco 74
i don't drink very much beer but i like miller's beer the best if i'm going to have one..... oh and the best beer is a free one!!
23 January 2010, 23:21
mousegun1
Try one of the Spaten brews - I like the Opitmator- its a dark beer- The Octoberfest is good and the Special. Hell, beer is GOOD
23 January 2010, 23:36
jeffeosso
1 "budweiser" is NOT beer .. its fermented rice sugar in beechwood, with some hops and the LIGHTEST barley every ..

I've seen what they put int he brews here in the houston brewery .. its LESS than 10% barley ... NOT BEER ... ever


Rules for beer
1: wet
2: colder than room tmep

EVERYTHING else is variable.

Go get a bass, a harp, a bud american ale, and a shocktop .. all of these are at walmart, everyday.

put them in the fridge for 24 hours

pour a full glass of each, trying to not head it up ... at the same time

if you like none of these, then you don't like beer, you like american light beer ..

which aint beer

and NO, only grossly homogenized american overly commerical, no flavor, no hops, not nothing but MILD flavored "malt beverages" taste the same.

perfect temp for beer? between 50 and 38 degrees.


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23 January 2010, 23:56
homebrewer


Boulevard makes several excellent beers. I found this one at the Walmart in Sidney, Nebraska. Easy to find around Kansas City. I have tried three or four of their other offerings. All are top-notch. Microbrews (less than 50,000 barrels a year) are always better than the horsepiss that leaves the plant as a syrup in a tank car. It gets the water put back into it and its carbon dioxide gas forced back into it at the local "brewery" in the nearest large metro area. "Tank car" beers are Bud and Miller, and the like. I don't bother drinking such crap, although I do like Keystone Red for slammin' down just for fun-- it's cheap at 50 cents a can. Good beer is a buck or more per bottle...

I suggest any of the Sierra Nevada brews, Negro Modelo Dark, Fat Tire Ale, Red Hook beers, Alaskan Amber Ale, Black Butte Porter...
24 January 2010, 00:32
Dark Continent
I agree with Homebrewer on the pisswater that passes for beer that the major breweries peddle to the masses. Hell, the masses voted for Obama! Shows what they know. No wonder they'll buy that shit they call beer.

I used to do a lot of all-grain homebrewing myself but don't have the time anymore. He's right about the processing of their "beer". They save the CO2 that comes off the wort during the fermentation process ship it out in bulk, add water, then force carbonate with the CO2. You only have one liver, why waste it on that piss?

Try the Ommegang ales that are brewed in upstate NY, fantastic if you like Belgian style ales. Also you might try Warsteiner and Bischoff (Germany), Fischer d'Alsace (France), Staropramen (Czech Republic, goes well with CZ rifles Wink ), Duvel and Leffe (Belgium), Bass (England), etc.

Happy Drinking
24 January 2010, 02:02
buckeyeshooter
Another vote for Miller High Life. Not the lite or genuine draft, try the original high life in bottles, very light and smooth!
24 January 2010, 03:07
John Frederick
quote:
Originally posted by JD Miller:
I recently started trying different beer. I started with budwieser light and thought it was good, but not extremely smooth. Then I tried Coors light Very tasty much more smooth. I bought heiniken last night and tried it. Probably the smoothest of the 3, but the taste just isn't for me! I read the last thread on beer and am wondering if beers from the same area tend to taste similar? Since budwieser is from bush should I stay away from others from this area? Since I like samual adams and st pauli girl both from the highlands should I look for others from the highlands? What other beer might I like from my findings thus far?


PLEASE stop drinking light beer, it's unrepresentative swill.
24 January 2010, 04:49
JD Miller
quote:
Originally posted by John Frederick:
PLEASE stop drinking light beer, it's unrepresentative swill.


rotflmoIf you notice I just copyed the "scotch" post and switched beers from scotch.
I dont drink any of that Rock gut, dizzy, nasty stuff, or yupy beerBig Grin
24 January 2010, 05:10
Dark Continent
quote:
Originally posted by JD Miller:
quote:
Originally posted by John Frederick:
PLEASE stop drinking light beer, it's unrepresentative swill.


rotflmoIf you notice I just copyed the "scotch" post and switched beers from scotch.
I dont drink any of that Rock gut, dizzy, nasty stuff, or yupy beerBig Grin


What's your point then? To waste everyone's time by getting them to respond to troll bait? bewildered
24 January 2010, 20:16
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by buckeyeshooter:
Another vote for Miller High Life. Not the lite or genuine draft, try the original high life in bottles, very light and smooth!


had a can of that with a good friend friday night.. traded him a lonestar for it ... the friend's company was great, including sharing a beer with him

however, if you HAVE to drink by the tanker beer, DO drink lone star ... it at least has taste

Sierra Nevada -- not a beer i suggest to anyone who only drinks american beers ... the hop profile is pretty strong ... i've only tried 4 or 5 of their brews, and their bittering hops are in WAY too long...


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
24 January 2010, 21:55
Geedubya


Shiner Black, Bock,

Budweiser American Ale

and my latest favorite
Negra Modelo

GWB
25 January 2010, 05:06
TCLouis
Costco has a case of 4 different brews that were made up for them that is kind of fun.

4 distinctly different beers from hoppy to not.



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Challenge your limits


25 January 2010, 09:57
buckeyeshooter
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by buckeyeshooter:
Another vote for Miller High Life. Not the lite or genuine draft, try the original high life in bottles, very light and smooth!


had a can of that with a good friend friday night.. traded him a lonestar for it ... the friend's company was great, including sharing a beer with him

however, if you HAVE to drink by the tanker beer, DO drink lone star ... it at least has taste

Sierra Nevada -- not a beer i suggest to anyone who only drinks american beers ... the hop profile is pretty strong ... i've only tried 4 or 5 of their brews, and their bittering hops are in WAY too long...


I've tried Lone Star and it was not to my taste.
25 January 2010, 10:53
homebrewer
quote:
Costco has a case of 4 different brews that were made up for them that is kind of fun.

4 distinctly different beers from hoppy to not.

I drank one of those cases. In the Kirkland box. Very good beer. Made in upstate New York. 24 bottles for twenty bucks. A good deal on good beer. Costco has several other cases of specialty beers in boxes marked other than Kirkland. There's one that's mostly black with neon printing on it. Check it out...
25 January 2010, 12:04
0X0
Let's start back at square one.

Four kinds of beers: Lager, Pilsner, Ale, Stout. Let's see if I can get this right. Lager and Pilsner are top fermented. Ale and Stout are bottom fermented. That affects fermentation temp and alcohol content.

What passes for "beer" in America is blonde pisswater. It's sort of a Pilsner or Lager but so processed that it may as well be colored soda water.

WWII, when women in the US were working in factories and stopping for a beer after work led to light, watery American beer.

If you want "real beer" find a micro brewery and get it fresh, on tap. Also, develop a repertoire of beers. It's not like a marriage. You can have more than one beer that you enjoy.

I'm big on the dark, malty, heavy stouts, followed closely by hoppy ales.

Google "beer." Also, History Channel has a program in "Modern Marvels" that discusses beer making.

Good beer doesn't come in a can for the most part.
25 January 2010, 12:38
BrettAKSCI
quote:
Originally posted by JD Miller:
quote:
Originally posted by John Frederick:
PLEASE stop drinking light beer, it's unrepresentative swill.


rotflmoIf you notice I just copyed the "scotch" post and switched beers from scotch.
I dont drink any of that Rock gut, dizzy, nasty stuff, or yupy beerBig Grin


Yeah that was my post. Piss off!!! Scotch is expensive and I'd prefer to not buy stuff I don't like. That said I like most any type of beer aside from the Belgians. Stouts are my favorite. Murphy's, Samuel Smith's, and Young's are pretty hard to beat.

Brett


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May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
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25 January 2010, 20:12
Ghubert
Fuller's ESB, closely followed by London pride as far as beer goes, in terms of lager a nice san miguel, corona, becks or stella ( if feeling tacky) goes a long way towards curing the thirst.

Guinness is separate and holy.
25 January 2010, 21:32
homebrewer
GHube says,
quote:
Guinness is separate and holy.

One thing is for sure-- it's acquired taste...
25 January 2010, 23:49
Ghubert
quote:
Originally posted by homebrewer:
GHube says,
quote:
Guinness is separate and holy.

One thing is for sure-- it's acquired taste...


I do actually understand this view, having hated it myself to begin with.

The usual conversion route is to be invited along to a saint Patrick's day piss-up of one description or another and to try the stuff actually brewed in Ireland.

It's a cliche but the proper Irish stuff is like cream and further more perfect with pork scratchings.

Do you guy's get a Fullers or other British Ales, beers, porters or stouts over there?
26 January 2010, 00:00
0X0
quote:
"Despite an expensive and lengthy education I still can't spell!"


"I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way" ... Mark Twain (Samuel L. Clemens).

I ordered a Guiness once at a brew pub locally. The bartender sort of looked over his glasses, "You realize Guiness is served at room temperature?"

"Of course I do. Do you realize what a patronizing remark that is? Just bring me the beer."

He's probably French.
26 January 2010, 00:26
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by homebrewer:
GHube says,
quote:
Guinness is separate and holy.

One thing is for sure-- it's acquired taste...

my wife and her best friend say "its okay, for a diet beer .. do you have a true stout, rather than a dark porter?"

guiness IN THE OLD STYLE BOTTLE -- is bitter .

WHy?
guiness is meant to have nitrogen as the gas, NOT co2 .. and certainly not the old style bitter bottles.

draft or drought, the only way to drink it .. then it's creamy, sweet, and mild.

yes, i said creamy, sweet and mild when desribing guiness


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
26 January 2010, 00:51
fla3006
My favorite beers are brewed in Shiner, TX and Mexico, dark & light. Not being trendy, it's what I prefer.


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Shoot & hunt with vintage classics.
26 January 2010, 01:20
Ghubert
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by homebrewer:
GHube says,
quote:
Guinness is separate and holy.

One thing is for sure-- it's acquired taste...

my wife and her best friend say "its okay, for a diet beer .. do you have a true stout, rather than a dark porter?"

guiness IN THE OLD STYLE BOTTLE -- is bitter .

WHy?
guiness is meant to have nitrogen as the gas, NOT co2 .. and certainly not the old style bitter bottles.

draft or drought, the only way to drink it .. then it's creamy, sweet, and mild.

yes, i said creamy, sweet and mild when desribing guiness


You sound like man who has had a proper pint or two of Guinness in his time. beer
26 January 2010, 04:20
jeffeosso
Ghubert
Thank you sir, I have .. i love guiness, deeply and truely .. like one's first real sweetheart .


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
26 January 2010, 05:37
fla3006
Quite a few years ago I visted the British Virgin Islands with my ex-wife and her family. We went into a pub and ordered up pints of Guinness. None of us could finish, was like drinking straight bourbon whiskey as I recall. Didn't get much sailing that afternoon.


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26 January 2010, 06:06
DuggaBoye
Just a few I like
(the BIG list is TOO long)

Baltika No. 6 Porter

Spaten Optimator

San Migel Dark

Warsteiner


Kwak


Pilsner Urquell

Taj Mahal

Beers to consider:

http://www.wbb.com.au/review2.html

http://beeradvocate.com/top_beers.php

http://www.ratebeer.com/Ratings/Ratings-Top50.asp

http://www.imbibemagazine.com/...s-Best-Bottled-Beers


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26 January 2010, 07:53
BrettAKSCI
quote:
Originally posted by 0X0:
quote:
"Despite an expensive and lengthy education I still can't spell!"


"I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way" ... Mark Twain (Samuel L. Clemens).

I ordered a Guiness once at a brew pub locally. The bartender sort of looked over his glasses, "You realize Guiness is served at room temperature?"

"Of course I do. Do you realize what a patronizing remark that is? Just bring me the beer."

He's probably French.


Nice!!! I love it!!!

Brett


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Life Member SCI
Life Member NRA
Life Member WSF

Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter
May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
-Seth Peterson
26 January 2010, 08:02
BrettAKSCI
My favorite....

African: Kilimanjaro
Alaskan: Glacier Brewhouse Stout
American: New York Brew Co Black Chocolate Stout
Australian: Fosters (I haven't tried anything else. Please advise!)
European: Hoegarden
Indian: Taj
Japaneese: Kirin Ichiban
Mexican: Pacifico
UK: Murphy's Stout, Telley's Ale, Old Speckaled Hen, or Samuel Smith Oatmeal Stout (Hard to say!)

Brett


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Life Member SCI
Life Member NRA
Life Member WSF

Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter
May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
-Seth Peterson
26 January 2010, 14:08
Norton
No one drinks any of the many fine varieties Sam Adams has to offer? The Hefeweiser, Coastal Wheat, Winter, and Oktoberfest Lagers are great just to name a few.
26 January 2010, 15:49
miketaylor
I'm with Brett i love Hoegaarden. I also like Shropshire Lad and Timothy Taylor's.

When i go to Africa i like the Castle lager.

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26 January 2010, 18:25
adamhunter
quote:
Originally posted by Norton:
No one drinks any of the many fine varieties Sam Adams has to offer? The Hefeweiser, Coastal Wheat, Winter, and Oktoberfest Lagers are great just to name a few.


I like the Boston lager and Oktoberfest. Don't care for the wheat beers of any kind. Haven't tried any of the others. Sam is actually a distant relative of mine.

Brett: VB is a good Aussie beer. Victoria Bitter is what the VB stands for IIRC. Not sure if you can get it in the states, at least I've never seen it anywhere, so a lot of good this will do you. Big Grin


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26 January 2010, 19:10
Geedubya
I was in Hawaii a couple of Decembers ago on my 30th anniversary. For some reason the food store near our timeshare had Sam Adams Oktoberfest for something like $5.00 per six pack. I was only in this location for four days so I bought six sixes. Only thing "inexpensive" I found in Hawaii
GWB
26 January 2010, 21:26
Gatogordo
Beer is somewhat like women, various ones are better for various occasions. For instance, the one who cooks the best might not be, and probably isn't, the one who is best in bed. Of course, the same goes for the man as well. Also, what is gold to one person may be brass to another. A man's ex-wife I slept with a time or two years ago comes to mind........he swore she was the best ever, not even close IMO.

That said, for a light refreshing drink when I'm thirsty, or for instance, with sushi, I like Budweiser of all the commonly available US national brands. I don't give a damn if it doesn't meet jeffe's definition of beer, I'm drinking it, not signing a contract. I've tried Lone Star lately, and it is not bad, as a matter of fact a helluva lot better than it used to be, but how it won a prize is amazing to me.

I've tried and rejected at least a dozen wheat beers, here and in Germany out of the tap. Some were better than others, but none of them suited my tastes.

I tend not to like sweet flavors in my beer.

I don't like most Stouts, I prefer to eat my dinner, not drink it. I don't like beers that pretend to be wines, which includes many of the Belgian brews.

Corona is a blot on the good name of Mexican beers. Among the good ones are Negra Modelo, Dos Equis, green and amber, Leon Negra, Tecate, Bohemia and Superior. I also don't care much for Carta Blanca but it's much better than Corona or Sol or Pacifico IMO. There are at least 3 Mexican beers I haven't tried that I'd like to, Indio, Victoria, and Montejo but I haven't run into them either in my travels in Mexico or in the States. Femsa, the biggest beer producer in Mexico, was just this month purchased by Heineken, whether that will affect the quality of some of their excellent beers remains to be seen.

I tried all the commonly available beers in Namibia and I found Tafel to be several notches above the rest.

Beck's Dark is a fine, middle of the road darker beer which is drinkable without a tooth strainer.

I like most IPAs IF they hold the hops down to a dull roar.

Fat Tire makes some good beers. I like some of Sam Adams products, including their standard. I recently tried Sierra Nevadas "Celebration" which is a good aperitif type beer. I like but don't love most of SN's beers.

I like Mickey's Pale Ale if you get it fresh.

One of the few downsides to living here in God's Country is that Yuengling beer is not available. A very fine brew.

There are some very good brews coming out of Texas, lead by the old standby Shiner Bock, but there are many others on a much smaller scale.

I find most brewpubs brews to be decent, but not as good as they claim them to be or think they are.

The list is just too long, I like most of them, especially if you're buying....... beer


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26 January 2010, 22:15
Macifej
quote:
pint or two of Guinness


A light beer is good now and then ...
27 January 2010, 01:27
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
my wife and her best friend say "its okay, for a diet beer .. do you have a true stout, rather than a dark porter?"



that's what i said, jay


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
27 January 2010, 01:40
butchloc
i'm still tasting and trying Big Grin beer
27 January 2010, 01:50
0X0
quote:
Originally posted by Norton:
No one drinks any of the many fine varieties Sam Adams has to offer? The Hefeweiser, Coastal Wheat, Winter, and Oktoberfest Lagers are great just to name a few.


Sam Adams advertising puts me off. They all look like East Coast metrosexuals.

fishing
27 January 2010, 02:51
Geedubya
+1 to what CAT said,
I'll have what you're buying.

Or as a friend, when asked his choice, was heard to retort "Cold". beer

GWB