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26 December 2007, 09:38
Rick R
How old is too old for a bottle of whiskey?
My wife's grandmom found a stash of Michter's whiskey from the late 70's and I got a bottle. Big Grin
It's in a normal bottle with a cork still sealed and wrapped in cellophane (sp?).

I've heard that it's good stuff but got to wondering how old was too old?

bewildered
26 December 2007, 10:07
Ted68
Terrible stuff, my friend, you don't want it. Send it to me for proper disposal. Wink

If the cork is okay, pour and enjoy.
26 December 2007, 10:39
boom stick
I'm with Ted68 on this one... dont risk it...let trained pro's handel it for you... I'll pm you with the W.D.U. address (Whiskey Disposal Unit) this service is free of charge and tax deductable...nevermind that it is a residential address Big Grin


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26 December 2007, 21:02
buckeyeshooter
It will be great--enjoy!
27 December 2007, 07:30
Rick R
Thanks guys, I believe that we can manage the disposal ourselves, probably around the end of the year. Wink

Happy New Year to all
beer
29 December 2007, 00:20
TBEAR99
why do you think people pay more money for aged whiskey sorry but no brainer here drink and enjoy


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30 December 2007, 01:33
Ted68
quote:
Originally posted by TBEAR99:
why do you think people pay more money for aged whiskey sorry but no brainer here drink and enjoy


Yes, but thats for whiskey aged in oak barrels which have been charred on the inside. Spending 30 years in a glass bottle does not really count as aging. Should the cork be damaged, or shrink and lose it's seal ever so slightly, the liquor can become "bottle sick" and is then ruined.

Cheers
30 December 2007, 04:47
Rick R
quote:
Originally posted by Ted68:
Yes, but thats for whiskey aged in oak barrels which have been charred on the inside. Spending 30 years in a glass bottle does not really count as aging. Should the cork be damaged, or shrink and lose it's seal ever so slightly, the liquor can become "bottle sick" and is then ruined.
Cheers


That's what I was wondering, this cork seems to be well sealed. I know that the barrels "breathe" somewhat and that they're rotated every so often, maybe the cork closure is morebetter than a plastic screw top. What are the symptoms of "bottle sick"?
30 December 2007, 15:28
Ted68
Basically what it is is the allowing of air to circulate (different from breathing) which allows bacteria from the air to grow--generally around the bottom of a deteriorated cork. This is extremely rare in factory sealed bottles. That is why there is a plastic shrink-wrap around the top edges of the cork to begin with. It generally happens in bottles where the cork didn't make a good seal when re-inserted or was damaged, and the bottle then set for a good while due to slow sales. Also cork will pick up bacteria well from a bartender with dirty hands. But again, all of this is very rare and very different from the bottle sickness in wine.

So in short, y'all are good for New Years. Enjoy it.

Now I must dash off to my 6:00 a.m. AA meeting.

Cheers!

PS.

I forgot, the symptoms.

The bottom of the cork is black and wet and will scrape off onto your thumbnail like mud. The whiskey will be slightly cloudy and have a very apparent tang that will make you pucker and gag, your nose will run and your eyes will water.

And since either hanging around or working in my uncles bars since I was 11, I have only seen this three times. The first two were on bottles that were very, very old--as in "I don't know, it was here when I bought the bar!" old the third was due to a bartender with a coke problem who kept rubbing her nose.

You're safe.

Happy new Years
31 December 2007, 05:40
Rick R
Well, I opened up that bottle tonite. Once unwrapped I found that it had the screw top and was in perfect condition.
Nice smooth whiskey with a bit lighter taste than good old Jack Daniels.

I'm set for New Years, hope everyone else is the same.
jumping jumping jumping
31 December 2007, 07:01
333_OKH
quote:
Originally posted by Ted68:
quote:
Originally posted by TBEAR99:
why do you think people pay more money for aged whiskey sorry but no brainer here drink and enjoy


Yes, but thats for whiskey aged in oak barrels which have been charred on the inside. Spending 30 years in a glass bottle does not really count as aging. Should the cork be damaged, or shrink and lose it's seal ever so slightly, the liquor can become "bottle sick" and is then ruined.

Cheers


Agree....way different. Should be fine, but you will be the first to know!
31 December 2007, 09:25
Ted68
quote:
Once unwrapped I found that it had the screw top


You made me type all that for nuthin' moon!!!

Just kidding, enjoy the new years.

By the way, it's not hard to beat Jack Daniels stir
31 December 2007, 10:33
Rick R
Originally posted by Ted68:
quote:
By the way, it's not hard to beat Jack Daniels stir


I've tried some of the "better" stuff but I think my taste buds are already petrified and I just keep going back for more JD.
Kind of like riding in my 85 Jeep Wrangler, I know it's going to be rough but it's a comfortable rough. Big Grin
31 December 2007, 11:13
tasco 74
HAPPY NEW YEAR RICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
30 January 2008, 06:50
.500Pro
gooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
02 February 2008, 16:29
ldkier
While helping a friends widow clean out the departed 'ol boys hunting duffel; found a pint of Old Overholt rye. It had been awaiting a celebration (a bull elk kill) since the sixties.
May just pop 'er open and toast the 'ol boy


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02 February 2008, 21:15
KSTEPHENS
my grandfather got a decorative decanter of wild turkey every year from his crew back in the early 70's when he worked for colonial pipeline.
I have 6 of them unopened.
02 February 2008, 23:03
Rick R
I did some research on the Net and there are people who buy the "Collectable" decanters just for the whiskey. Pop the top on one K and let us know how it was.
beer
03 February 2008, 00:49
EXPRESS
It's not whiskey, but I took a bottle of Antinori Aleatico from 1975 to a friends' place for a duck hunt on Thursday and it was sublime.

If the product was up to scratch to begin with you can hope it stands up to time well.
12 March 2008, 09:56
mustbhuntn
quote:
Originally posted by Rick R:


got to wondering how old was too old?

bewildered


I don't think you can get too old to enjoy good whiskey Big Grin
12 March 2008, 20:51
KSTEPHENS
i have a few of the the wild turkey decantures from the 70's w/ the seals intact.
my paternal GF worked for the pipeline and got one for Christmas every year from his crews.
its a shame i quit drinking a decade and a half ago.
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