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Need documented and proven 150gr.&154gr. 7mm Rem Mag data
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I surfed the whole 37 pages of shared loads for interesting recipies. Thanks to those who have already posted some loads.
But there seems to be a re occuring trend with much of the 7mm Remington Magnum load data that has been shared. Where are the measured velocities?
What is reasonable to expect in bullet weights of 150 to 154gr.?
I have on hand IMR 4831, H&IMR4350, RL22.
Thanks in advance, but if you dont have chrono. data please refrain from posting.
 
Posts: 120 | Location: Alberta | Registered: 16 October 2004Reply With Quote
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Southpaw,
I think you'll find that the problem with Chrono'd loads is that each rifle chrono's different. Some have fast barrels and some slow,some are 23" and others 26". Mine is a 25" and here is some of the chrono'd loads.
H1000 71 gr. Hornady 154 SST 3200 FPS HOT!!!
IMR 7828 65.5 gr Hornady 154 SP 3000 FPS
RL 22 65 gr. Hornady 154 SP 3000 FPS
I'm getting great results from
RL 22 67gr 140gr Accubonds 3300FPS
Retumbo 70gr. 160 Accubond 3000FPS
All are chrono'd loads and only good in my rifle so reduce by 5% and work up.
 
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My old standard 150 grain load is 69 H4831 for 3100 fps. I used to use the old Nosler solid base and it was a great deer hunting buller, the BT is pretty darn soft.


A shot not taken is always a miss
 
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Thanks for the dangerous load JSTEVENS.
That load runs over max. in any manual I own from 3 to 7grs.
Have you ever heard of cumulative metal fatigue?
I'll come clean now with the reson for my asking for chrono'd data for the beloved 7em em.
It boils down to this. I have found through many years of chronographing loads for guys at the range that many a swagering gentleman with a 7 em em mag. has lost that swager once his "smoking" load has proved to be only a tad hotter than a 270Win, or god forbid crushed by some lowley 30'06.
My results with my recently acquired LH Rem 700 (circa 1974) have proved what I've known for years, factory fodder is a dog I chrono'd some 150's at 2920fps, and some might stiff(but just under max.) reloads with 150's did only 2900fps. And the reloads I got when I bought the rifle were loaded with 160gr. Speers, and according to the previous owner were supposed to be doing around 3000fps, clocked out at 2700fps.
Now I'm not putting the 7mm Rem. Mag. down as a game taking cartridge, but what irks me is all the hype about how much better it is than a 30'06 or 270Win. My lowley mod 88 win kicks 165gr. 308's out at 2660fps from a 22" bbl, and everyone knows that a 7em em is waaay more powerful than a 308Win.
All of them work if you put the pill where it counts. And as for the claims of 3 grand with a 160, well it can be done no doubt, but what are you loading, and will the chrono leave you shaking your head.
 
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SouthPaw, Your a new member. So why are you putting such crap on here. You asked for input, then tell us we don't know anything about the 7mm REM Mag and that the 308 is better. If you have a problem with this Caliber only you care not the rest of us who load for it.
 
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Rob please re read the above post. I have nothing against the 7mm Rem. Mag. Guys like yourself who fail accept that their 7 em em's are hard pressed to do much better than other cartridges is what I find quite musing. I fully accept the track record of the 7mm Rem. Mag. as a game getter, what I have trouble accepting is the inflated or over loaded(read: dangerous)results many 7 em em lovers project.
Yes this might hurt some of your ego's but rest assured your beloved 7 em em will kill your deer or your elk and maybe even a big bear, just as handily with say a kindly old gent with a lowely 7x57.
An as you can see it's not the caliber I have troubles with it's egocentric and close minded hot shot reloaders who post potententialy dangerous loads on the web.
Coincidentally Rob your the only one who stated that one should reduce the loads and work up, for that I tip my hat to you.
Good day and be safe.
 
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One or two rifles with a shot out barrel (1974) proves nothing. Take your rifle and put a new barrel on it and then chrono the same loads. I think you'll see a big change. Your problem is you like to sharpshoot others based on very limited experience. Good hunting to you.
 
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BTW Rob: The barrel might have been made in 1974 but a thorough examination with the borescope proved that the barrel has not been shot out, and between myself and a few buddies(2 BR shooters and a gun smith) we concluded that the round count most likely is below 300 rnds. And if you call chronographing in excess of 30 different 7mm Rem. Mags. over the past 10 to 15 years inexperience, well I guess your right.
Be safe and shoot straight.
 
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SouthpawDV: You came into this thread using false pretenses to sucker some well-meaning folks wanting to help a newcomer. Then you shit all over their parade by telling them the very cartridge you asked about in the first place in your opinion isn't as potent as thought. Why? If you had started your topic stating you do not believe the 7 RM is as potent as many people believe and here's why, you would have gotten a lot of resonses. But suckering well-meaning folks like you did is bottom-feeding tactics. Shame on you!
 
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Southpaw

That is why your 7mm is subpar with factory loads. All rifles are different animals and mine may even have a little throat wear. Dangerous- I bought the rifle in 1974 and it now looks like a boat anchor and has had probably 4000 rounds through it. If you were a bit more experienced reloading, you'd already know that the 7Mag will have more variation in loading data than almost anything. Mine also takes 66 grains of RL22 to hit 2900 fps with a 175 NP. When I started loading, the 69 H4831 150 combo was a standard load and works well. If I loaded to what some of the books show, mine would be slower than a hot loaded .30-06 too. You asked for a proven load, I have one, but I have only loaded my own ammo since I was 13, and I'll be 50 next spring, so I have nothing to offer you obviously. Go somewhere else if you want to argue with people who were trying to give you direction. My loads have been shot by me for years and checked by all common methods, chronographed and backed up by a pressure trace system. You probably don't even know what that is.


A shot not taken is always a miss
 
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I am happy for you JSTEVENS. Yes I know what pressure tracing is, you are assuming since I chastised you for over book loads I am a neophyte. I assure you I am far from that, But I do wish to caution you that your advice to a neophyte will cause someone someday a lot of greif.
Mr. 7x57 you call me a bottom feeder. Well with all the back biting and bashing of others and others sites, it makes me feel that that is the norm here at AR. see this link and see who's a skum sucker. https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3221043/m/799104065
Grow up you bunch of whinny children just because someone does'nt have glowing regards on a certain subject, or wishes to convey an opinion contrary to what you all share you start hacking on someone.
I am far from perfect but with some of the threads that exist around here I have one question. What do you prefer being called the pot or the kettle?
 
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I don't mind a difference of opinion when the person expresses it up front. However, you asked for our input then jumped on us for providing it. Thats just wrong.
 
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Southpaw: I could care less about the virtues of the 7mm Remington Magnum. I was, however, taken aback by the underhanded tactic you used to get into the topic. The truth from the beginning would have served you better, but apparently you cannot, or will not see it that way. I said you used a bottom feeder tactic, however, after reading your last post I have to adjust my thinking to now feel that you are correct in that all of you is of the bottom feeding variety.
 
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And on top of it all, you can't spell. grief, scum sucker,whiney,doesn't exactly convey your sense of superiority. I could care less what you think about me or my loads or any other damn thing. You started a post to start a fight, and I'll not be involved in it.


A shot not taken is always a miss
 
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Jeez...Southpaw just joined and he's a dick..Coulda played a couple of hands and then pulled out his "dick" card. He must be a democrat.. Big Grin


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He must be a democrat jumping

Now that fuuny!!!

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