I have recently developed a fine load indeed consisting of 52 grns of RL15 and the North Fork 225 grain. Velocity recorded with this load is 2501 fps avg.

Had Jim Dubell rebore this Rem. 30 to the caliber and broke it in-a rare break in for sure. Virtually no fouling.

Had Bill Soverns duplicate a stock for me and fully bed that action/barrel.

With my Leupold vari-III 1.5x5 mounted in Talley bases and QR rings I can do no more than .6" @ 100yds. I was expecting better believe it or not, wanted the bullets touching as in some of the other rifles I shoot.

I had great success in shot placement and kill with this bullet his fall- a nice 57" bull moose. The cherry on top is that I can eat right up to the wound channel.

Now this is a load. After reading of 225's not giving a good shot placement I had to post this.

regards,

Don't want you to feel alone. I am shooting under 3/4" groups with 52.0 gr RL15 under a 225 Hornady in my 338/06.

you're a kind man sir a kind man It behooved(is that a good term?) me to read so much about the 210's that it seemed fitting to post what a 225 can do.

Trying for velocity was not my goal. Next development will be the 185 Barnes...would be a dandy bullet for a caribou load.

MY 338-06 Likes the 225gr.Partition some of my best groups are with this bullet. On a good day she will group 1/2 inch. I'm running a 23" tube, put some IMR-4350 in them Norma cases, she will turn on the speed at 2700fps.

My gun does not like them Nosler 210gr. Partitions. I tried all kinds of combos trying to make them work.

It will shoot them Nosler 200gr. A/B into small groups doing 2900fps. I use IMR- 4064 for that.
Take Care have a good hunting season.

don't believe I can hammerdown, not with this 20" barrel. it is a good "carbine" nonetheless.

Grizz, Try Varget with the 185 TSX or MRX my 24 in. barrel crono's at 3000 with 56.5 gr. your may differ so reduce by 5% and work up.

I load 62 grains of H 380 under a 225 grain Hornady.. for an MV of 2700 fps out of a 24 inch barrel in a Model 70...

Mine was 23", 2900 200's, 2670 225's, and 2790 215's.

I doubt as good an expansion ratio it has, that it loses more than 50-70 fps max from 23 to 20.

Lighter bullets tend to lose more in shorter bbls IIRC.

Oh, IMR 4320 was THE powder for me/my rifle.

Hate to ask, but who chronographs you folks loads. I've had a 338/06 for 15 years, and there's NO WAY you can get 2700 fps from a 225 gr bullet in it. Damned hard to get 2500 fps from the 250s, too. I got mine because I always wanted a 333/0kh, and Elmer told me, get the 338/06, same thing. Took me awhile to discover a load (56 grs A4064) to get 2500 with the 250s, and when I chronographed it after using it in Africa with the 225s, they weren't much ahead of the 250s. Elmer said the 250s should be about 2400fps..which is what the 60grs of 4350 gave, and was working to get there. The velocities I'm seeing here, are what you "might" get from a full 338WM. Craig Boddington said he's never seen a real 2500 fps from the 250s. BTW, everyone looking at lighter bullets, the 338/06 333OKH, was developed to be used with 250 and UP weight bullets. Elmer shot 275s and 300s in his. I like the new 225s because in the Ttsx, they're as long as the 250s, and give better trajectories.

Any of you 338-06 lovers try the 160 gr TTSX yet. I have loaded but not shot loads of 62 and 64 gr of RL15 to begin with. Any idea if this load is within reasonable load discipline?

Guess Barnes is no longer responding to email questions on load data! Took the bull by the horns and fired the 62 and 64 RL 15 loads and came home with all fingers and eyeballs! Shows promise but further load work coming. Does shoot about +6 or more above my 210 TTSX/TSX loads.

Must say, got a response from Josh at Barnes and they had no data with RL 15 other than a 60 gr max on the old xfb bullet that had no grooves like the TTSX age design. Expect the 64 gr getting close to max.

Good info Muy. I will be shooting some 250gr Hornady RN in my 338-06 and 210gr Nosler Partitions in the next month or so.

I've done my barrel break in and I've just been waiting on cool weather to get here. I didn't bother shooting it this summer at all.

A couple of loads FYI.

Took a 9 1/2 brown bear with 250 A Fr with 58.5 gr of H4350; seven African animals with 210 TTSX with 51 gr of RL 15 and have finished the 160 TTSX load development with 63.5 gr of RL 15.

Really impressed with the caliber and hope to do some large feral hogs and whitetail with the 160's very soon. From 160-250 gr obviously covers a lot of country/game! Yeppers have a great 338 WM gathering unused time in the gun cabinet (1 is ready to hunt at 7 3/4 lbs and the other 9+, go figure). Had to add that as we will soon hear from Them.

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With my Leupold vari-III 1.5x5 mounted in Talley bases and QR rings I can do no more than .6" @ 100yds. I was expecting better

Grizz, unless you have Lois Lane for a business partner, it would be very hard to have bullets touching at 100 yards using a 1.5x5 Leupold. You don't have the power to aim that precisely.

With a touch of work the 225 gr Accubond behind a compressed charge of VV-N550 is the cat's meow. A grizzly and blackie fell to this just s couple of months ago.

+1 on the 225 accubonds...just worked up a great load of 59 grs H414 col 3.34...approx
.6 inch 3 shot group...elk round for this season.

Sweet spot for me with 338-06 in a re-barreled Rem 700 was 50 gr Varget. Sorry I never did chronograph that load, but it shot well.

My 338-06 groups 225 Speer bullets into 5/8 in groups when pushed by 60 grs of W760. Accuracy was good with Rl 15 and 4320 but 760 is the best in my rifle.

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I've had a 338/06 for 15 years, and there's NO WAY you can get 2700 fps from a 225 gr bullet in it. Damned hard to get 2500 fps from the 250s, too. I got mine because I always wanted a 333/0kh, and Elmer told me, get the 338/06, same thing. Took me awhile to discover a load (56 grs A4064) to get 2500 with the 250s,

6 weeks plus old, but this was aimed at my post..

don't know if Tysue is stil around, but I don't have a problem at all getting 2700 fps with a 225 grain Hornady using H380.....

however he further explains that it took him a while to get 2500 fps with a 250 grain bullet, and that was using 56 grains of AA 4064...

well Sierra Manual lists an MV of 2500 fps with 50 grains of IMR 4064 and that is what my rifle gets...24 inch barrel...

and once again with H 380, and a 250 grain Hornady, RN or SP..my MV registers at 2650 fps..

but over my chrony and a pair of friends who have a Pat and an Oehler...

and some of these cases have seen 10 reloads on them... so one can assume pressure is not a critical issue...

So one can only assume they have a slow barrel and have not tried H 380 load data... which is floating around out there...

folks claim you can't get 2900 fps out of one either with a 200 grain bullet... but reload data show that is more than possible with multiple different powders..

just because one guy can't achieve it, doesn't mean it is impossible...yet too many 'experts' claim just that.. like their equipment is the benchmark of all velocity results..

Kinda like George Carlin use to describe people complaining about other drivers...

" why is it that someone going slower than you is always an 'idiot' and someone driver faster than you is always a 'maniac' out to kill themselves?"