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A 500 A^2 or 416 Taylor?

Thanks for the comments.
 
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500 A2, for sure. the taylor is a wimp, meant for HUNTERS, not big bore fanciers.
anything the taylor can do, the 500 A2 can do.
plus think of all the cheap 50 BMG bullets you can use!
Just build it on a CZ 416 rigby action, minimal fuss and money.
 
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Is it that time again already? Roll Eyes
 
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I remember seeing this guy sitting laughing in front of a mirror on a closed home for fruitcakes. He was also amazed over how funny he was.


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Scott,

By all means go with the 500A2. You already have a 405winnie that is nipping at the heals of a 416 Taylor. I mean, why go to the lengths of a custom rifle just to gain 100fps. And while we are at it, dump the 500A2 idea and go for something truly worthy of your 2009 custom project. You commented on another post of your desire to shoot a 600 Nitro, so why not full fill that dream. Get in touch with SafariKid and he'll get you the contact info for the guy down south that builds for him. Slap a 600 Overkill together in an eight pound rifle and then we'll all be jealous as hell. I know I'll be setting here wishing I "could be like Scott"

Joe


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Joe Miller,

Thanks for the comments. I am apprehensive about the 500 A2, with regard to my ability to handle it's recoil, so I really don't think I would like a 600!

The comments about the Taylor seem appropriate as well. My regarding the Taylor was precisely what you hinted at, it isn't much more than the 405 Win which is pushing my recoil tolerance limits.

What do you think of a 458 Win mag? That may be something I can still handle and will provide a step up from the 405 Winnie.
 
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Joe Miller,

Thanks for the comments. I am apprehensive about the 500 A2, with regard to my ability to handle it's recoil, so I really don't think I would like a 600!


So, call jack kevorkian and have him design it for you.

Which time are you lieing, scott? that you are an EXPERT on the 500 jeffery and 505 gibbs, or that you can't handle recoil?


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What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
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Jeff,

Why can't you simply reply nicely to my posts or ignore them. With regard to your latest question, you pick the answer that you like best!
 
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Jeff,

Why can't you simply reply nicely to my posts or ignore them. With regard to your latest question, you pick the answer that you like best!


Scott,
Why would you mislead persons into this EXACT same thing, again? You ask about once a year "what should I build" ... you really need to seek help


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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Scott, if you look back at my posts you will see that the 458 Win is my favorite cartridge. I think a 400 grain bullet over top of 70grs of IMR3031 might be the perfect load for the rifle. I have read many of your posts and I think you really want to be into big bore rifles but are apprehensive about either recoil or cost. The 458 can be had very reasonably and if you put in some time, you can learn to handle the recoil without issue. But understand, when you put aside your fear and latch onto a truly large rifle, your little 405 is going to seem mild by comparison. I seem to remember a thread many years ago about you and your 50 Beowulf. In that post you stated that the 500A2 was out done by the 50 Beowulf. So (and this is my assumption) with that being the case, I would think you have shot the 500A2 enough to judge its performance and thereby are able to handle the recoil. Here is another of your posts just so we are on the same page.

ScottS one of us Posted 01-25-2007 11:37 AM I have only shot the barrels out of three big bores, one 416 Rigby and two 458 Win mags. The Rigby took about 1000 rounds (hot Weatherby level rounds). The 458 Winnies took a couple thousand each. The M70 was truly abused with as many as 100 rounds fired in 1.5 hours (yes it was HOT). The 50 Beowulf on the other hand may have had as many as 300 rounds poured through it in a couple hours of fun and survived over 3000 rounds with no perceivable degradation."



Now with that post in mind, why ask me what I think of the 458? With a few thousand out of each rifle you own, I am sure you have shot more rounds from that cartridge than I have. I shoot often but it would take me years to equate a tally of 6000 rounds of 458 win mag. Hell the cost alone would hold me back. And now for another post of yours:

I own and operate a 500 AHR, a 405 Win, and a 50 Beowulf, among many others. I have owned 460 WM, 500 A-Square, 505 Gibbs, etc. I do not use Quickload to determine what the ballistic performance of a cartridge is, I load it up and chronograph it. I have found Quickload to be erroneous at best (10% error is pretty big when you are shooting a 500 ANYTHING) I do not post here often, it has been about 10 months, and do not intend on posting often, either! If you don't like my posts ignore them, or simply state your objection I will honor your opinion and not fight with you. I suggest you simply ignore me, and I will do likewise.

Now I am no expert, but if I were to spend the money it takes to own and operate a rifle from AHR as well as a 500A2 and most of all a 505 Gibbs, I would damn sure be able to handle the recoil of the rifles before I laid down cash for them. And again let me reference the question first asked, "Which should I build"; Maybe you should answer that for yourself since you have already owned rifles that you doubt are within your ability to handle the recoil there of.

Damn it boy, either jump in and buy a big rifle or go away and dream of someday being man enough to admit you can't handle them.

Joe


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Joe- By now you should realize ScottS is simply a TROLL! We know him quite well as he's been around over 8 yrs. Of late he has been reasonably subdued but pops up on a regular basis. I suspect he's actually more experienced than we give him credit for,but mostly he just trips over his previous lies and thinks hes smarter than everyone else. A real WACK-JOB if you ask around!-Rob


Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
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You're right Rob. I was just trying to help him find his way. I will never understand why someone continues to set himself up for abuse. Maybe its entertainment for him, but what do I know?

Joe


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