Anybody has experience with vortex scopes on 416 Remington

You might want to relabel your thread to
"Vortex scopes for big bores" or similar.

Otherwise, everyone might list their favorite scopes, $200 to $3000.

The only thing I personally didn't like on the few Vortex scopes I've shot was the small eye box compared to something like Leupold. I don't know how much I'd care to have my eye close to the back of the scope like the Vortex needed on a heavy recoiling rifle. Plus a Chinese made scope makes me wonder how tough it is.

They need to make a scope made just for this. Their PST 1-6x24 and similar are geared more toward the 3-gun competition/AR Shooters.

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They need to make a scope made just for this. Their PST 1-6x24 and similar are geared more toward the 3-gun competition/AR Shooters.

Agreed. A steady diet of 400-535 grain bullets at 2,350 fps will eat a Vortex for brunch. My vote is for Swarovski.

I own a bunch of different scopes, Schmidt & Bender, Swarovski, Zeiss, Leupold, Redfield, Weaver, Vortex, Bushnell, etc.. So when these questions come up I'm not trying to be critical of other brands so much as to just get down to business. For the money, you are not going to be able to beat a Leupold. Vortex has several price points and I cannot imagine choosing anything over the Leupold for the same money. Even if I were looking to save some bucks, I would hunt for a good used Leupold over a Vortex for a .416. My .416 Rigby wears a Leupold 1.5x5. If price is no object, go to a Schmidt & Bender or Swarovski. I have a Schmidt & Bender 1 1/4x4 on a 9.3x62. However, as it has been mentioned, some of the European scopes like the S&B don't have the eye relief you might need.
Just my $0.02.

I have the vortex razor hd lh on my 416 Ruger and it is holding up fine and great glass. Think it is 2-8x32 or close to that cannot remember without looking it up.

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Originally posted by Cougarz:
The only thing I personally didn't like on the few Vortex scopes I've shot was the small eye box compared to something like Leupold. I don't know how much I'd care to have my eye close to the back of the scope like the Vortex needed on a heavy recoiling rifle. Plus a Chinese made scope makes me wonder how tough it is.

Only the cheaper model Crossfire Vortex scope is made in China, others are made in the Phillipines and the more expensive models made in Japan.

I gave my son my Leupold VX1 scope keeping a Vortex Diamondback instead. These are both the same price point here in NZ and I know both models are nowhere near top of the range, but I do find the Vortex power change, quick focus, and the turret adjustment far superior than the Leupold. The Leupold focus adjustment is old school and a PITA. The power change is on Viagra and the turret adjustments fiddly. Nothing between them for optic quality and the warranty is the same.

In saying all this I couldn't vouch for how the Vortex scopes will stand up to heavy recoil. I do know that the Leupold 2x EER scope has stood up to my 404 Jeffery for close to 40 years now without a hitch..

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Agreed. A steady diet of 400-535 grain bullets at 2,350 fps will eat a Vortex for brunch. My vote is for Swarovski.

yep...Viper PST lasted 7 shots on my .416 Rigby, replacement scope lasted 21 shots on my .458 Lott.
Both have Leupold now.

Put on a NIKON Inline 3-9 (so called Muzzleloader scope).

It will not break, it has 5" eye-relief, and the glass is excellent.

Price point? Incredible for the quality.

I probably have 200 rounds through my 416 Ruger with the Vortex Razor HD LH and no problems. It is one of their higher end models so will be sure to let you guys know if it falls apart.

Vortex Viper 4-16 bdc on a savage LRH in .338 lapua.... other than I'd now prefer a mildot instead of the bdc, I can't complain...

I would think Vortex scopes would be quality enough to work on a .416 Rem, most any scope of midlevel quality will...The problems don't show their ugly head until you get to the 458 L0tt has been my experience, and the more after that the worse it gets..

I've used a vortex viper 1-4 pst. on a 416 remington. The scope is awesome for the caliber. The only issue I had was the tube was just a little short so it's hard to mount and it was so heavy that I couldn't keep it from slipping, even in Talley rings. Other than that, it was by a good margine my favorite reticle for target and hunting and held up fine. I even shot at 1000 yards with this scope on my 416.

Heavy recoil and heavy scopes (typically foreign) are a problem for sure, about the only cure is to use rubber cement or some such sticky stuff to stop the movement..also many foreign scopes have a Teflon type finish that slicker n snot..add a heavy scope to that and you gotta problem..I would also keep in mind that Talley and some others use torx screws and they will actually form a form fitting ridge in some scope metal, so beware of that. Some guys have mucho testosterone and can squeeze a scope tube like a doggie out of a balloon at the carnival.

As too your scope being too short as many are, use and extension ring installed backwards on the front of the scope..problem solved.

I use a grip powder under the rings on big bores to prevent exactly the situation Ray decribes. It is the same stuff I use in the barrel vise.

eye relief ....
therefore nikon

Ray,
Do you think a 400gr at 2400 kick less than 500 at 2100? I generally swap 100gr for 100 fps when thinking recoil ... i find the winmag, with most factory ammo, to be closer to a 375 than a light 416 ... i've got a Y cut in my right eyebrow, as the motivating moment when i built my first stock machine