I am planning on a little rifle project next year in .505 Gibbs.

I like Golmatic Magnum mauser action since my
.416 Rigby is made on one....but how about the
Granite Mountain Magnum Mauser action??.
Is there anybody out there that knows if there should be any difference in these two actions..or are they all "top of the pile"??.
Natually I could choose the H&W action$$$$$..but its gonne be a working gun not a showpiece!

.505 Gibbs made on a Mauser 98 action is not a double rifle Jens!

However, there will be easy for you to find high quality .505 Gibbs brass late next year

From what I have looked at, Waffenfabrik Hein has some of the nicest actions going. I have a quote in for a .505 Gibbs at this very moment.

Jens

what are you shooting in Denmark that requires a .505 Gibbs.

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Originally posted by 22WRF:
Jens

what are you shooting in Denmark that requires a .505 Gibbs.

What am I shooting in Tennessee that requires a .416 Rigby?????

i am having a 505 built on a granite mt arms action imho there are the finest bolt actions for hunting on the market.

waffen hein are a great alternetive. but granite arms actions definitly takes first place.

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Originally posted by 700 nitro:
i am having a 505 built on a granite mt arms action imho there are the finest bolt actions for hunting on the market.

waffen hein are a great alternetive. but granite arms actions definitly takes first place.

Is your preference and opinion stated, based upon the fact that one is a M-70 clone and the other a M-98 clone?

One comes finished from the the Maker (Hein) the other does not...

Both are machined and top quality actions by all accounts, it may be a preference for action type that dictates choice.

Certainly when comparing pricing, head to head, Hein is more competitive and Hein is working on a M-98 ...more choices is a good thing

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Originally posted by 700 nitro:
i am having a 505 built on a granite mt arms action imho there are the finest bolt actions for hunting on the market.

waffen hein are a great alternetive. but granite arms actions definitly takes first place.

Steve,
I am wondering where you gathered your basis for that conclusion? I don't have the basis to make a decision, directly. It basically boils down to preference, at the money you are paying Ryan for your 505, right?

j

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Originally posted by husky:
.505 Gibbs made on a Mauser 98 action is not a double rifle Jens!

However, there will be easy for you to find high quality .505 Gibbs brass late next year

..I know..but I have had this cartridge(505) in the collection for many years..and last week I couldn`t resist of not having a .505 Gibbs.......Do you know the feeling ??
If everything goes right a double rifle will show up before the .505

I haven`t seen the waffenhein M98 Magnum yet
but I know that the Golmatic or the Granite Mountain action duplicates the original as close as close can be. I wonder when Norma will put out a "jaktmatch" in the .505Gibbs?

I know the Jefferys .500 is more powerfull, but the criteria for my african battery is catridges made before WW1.

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Originally posted by jens poulsen:
I am planning on a little rifle project next year in .505 Gibbs.

I like Golmatic Magnum mauser action since my
.416 Rigby is made on one....but how about the
Granite Mountain Magnum Mauser action??.
Is there anybody out there that knows if there should be any difference in these two actions..or are they all "top of the pile"??.
Natually I could choose the H&W action$$$$$..but its gonne be a working gun not a showpiece!

The GMA magnum Mauser action is very well designed and excellent quality. But to make a top quality rifle, it will need a top quality gunsmith to perform final fitting/polishing/feeding. In other words, you don't just screw a barrel on and drop it into a stock, or the result will not be best quality.

Also, the GMA uses a .750" bolt body diameter, which is larger than the original Mauser but much preferable for big rim cases. Hein is offering an action with approx a .800 bolt body diameter which would be very tempting to use for a Gibbs.

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Originally posted by 500grains:

Also, the GMA uses a .750" bolt body diameter, which is larger than the original Mauser but much preferable for big rim cases. Hein is offering an action with approx a .800 bolt body diameter which would be very tempting to use for a Gibbs.

I have a quote to Hein right now for that very reason. I am also requesting a quote from Ryan and a few others as well. After my RSM, I think I'm getting snot in my nose. Not knocking CZ or anything, but there is a HUGE difference in the two!

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Originally posted by 500grains:

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Originally posted by jens poulsen:
I am planning on a little rifle project next year in .505 Gibbs.

I like Golmatic Magnum mauser action since my
.416 Rigby is made on one....but how about the
Granite Mountain Magnum Mauser action??.
Is there anybody out there that knows if there should be any difference in these two actions..or are they all "top of the pile"??.
Natually I could choose the H&W action$$$$$..but its gonne be a working gun not a showpiece!

The GMA magnum Mauser action is very well designed and excellent quality. But to make a top quality rifle, it will need a top quality gunsmith to perform final fitting/polishing/feeding. In other words, you don't just screw a barrel on and drop it into a stock, or the result will not be best quality.

Also, the GMA uses a .750" bolt body diameter, which is larger than the original Mauser but much preferable for big rim cases. Hein is offering an action with approx a .800 bolt body diameter which would be very tempting to use for a Gibbs.

The bolt dia on the golmatic is 18.10mm or
aprox .7125".
Thanx for fax
That´s the kind of info I need
I saw some years ago in a Guns&Ammo a gunreport on Granit Mountains .505 Gibbs and if was a nice looking gun......
Can the granit Action be ordered with the real "flagsafety"??. It just look so wrong with a Model70 safety on a classic mauser(sorry)

What is the homepage for Granite??

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Originally posted by jens poulsen:

I know the Jefferys .500 is more powerfull, but the criteria for my african battery is catridges made before WW1.

Actually if both are loaded with MODERN powders, the Gibbs comes out ahead!

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Originally posted by woodsracer:Actually if both are loaded with MODERN powders, the Gibbs comes out ahead!

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Originally posted by woodsracer:
Actually if both are loaded with MODERN powders, the Gibbs comes out ahead!

case capacity is hard to beat

jeffe

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

case capacity is hard to beat

jeffe

That, and it looks like a bigger version of my beloved .416 Rigby.

Just think Jeffe:

If I wind up with a .505 Gibbs, not only can I join the "+.50 Club", but the Rigby might actually become my second favorite caliber, under the .505.

You can get so much good advice and information on the Forum that you can get vapor lock (brain freeze). But here is another suggestion: try Karl Hans Ritterbusch. Here is his contact info:
Ritterbusch-Seehausen@t-online.de
ritterbusch@jagdewehre.com
www.jadgewehre-ritterbusch.de
His website is a knockout and the prices of his actions were a little cheaper than H&W. Good luck with the project.

its basicly a preferance thing but i do like the 98's more than the m70s always have not saying that theres anything wrong with a m70 there isnt.

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Originally posted by mufasa:
You can get so much good advice and information on the Forum that you can get vapor lock (brain freeze). But here is another suggestion: try Karl Hans Ritterbusch. Here is his contact info:
Ritterbusch-Seehausen@t-online.de
ritterbusch@jagdewehre.com
www.jadgewehre-ritterbusch.de
His website is a knockout and the prices of his actions were a little cheaper than H&W. Good luck with the project.

Thank pal....I forgot that option..e-mail will be sent for a qutation.
I know who my brass supplier will be
Dieter Horneber...he makes the finest brass in the world

Jens,

GMA offers their rifle with M70 safety only, but there is a way to convert to flag because I read about a guy doing it. But I do not know the details.

The GMA can be set up with the flag safety, no problem.
The 585 that I barreled and test fired has a flag safety.
I've done the barrel work and the feeding and function work on about 150 GMA barreled actions since April 2002. I supply their extractors and FN style cocking pieces without the v shaped groove in the bottom.

585 GMA barreled action on the test fire sled, look closely, that's a flag safety. That action is the GMA,ARV good for 416 Rigby, 505 Gibbs, 585 GMA. It's a big action .750 Diameter bolt and 1.500 inches wide on the front ring. She's big and the rifles built on her are deep and wide.
When stocking one of these the stockmaker wants to make the 416 and 450 Rigby as trim as possible. When going to the 505 Gibbs and 585 GMA the stockmaker wants leave a little bit more size to the stock.
Next project on deck. 500 Jeffery on a GMA standard plus, which is a smaller action with a 1.420 diameter ring, makes a sweet 500 Jeff. not too big not too small, but just right.
TIMAN

Does anybody know if ritterbush sells just their actions?

HiTiman!

I most say that your action for your .585 look awfull nice
I believe that action could be the strongest
candidate for my .505 Gibbs!
I natually consider when a GMA action cost
$4000 I shall add 37.5 % in import taxes/duties which translates into $5500 + S&h to denmark!
I should be able to get a Hartmann & Weiss for around $6000, but the Golmatic magnum mauser
costs me only $4200 and since this is a budget rifle(working rifle) I have planned only to spend $10-11k.
But I `ll talk to my gunmaker later here this summer get his qutation for the work!!!!.

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Originally posted by jens poulsen:

I natually consider when a GMA action cost
$4000 I shall add 37.5 % in import taxes/duties which translates into $5500 + S&h to denmark!

With taxes like that, you guys should have a revolution!

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Originally posted by 500grains:

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Originally posted by jens poulsen:

I natually consider when a GMA action cost
$4000 I shall add 37.5 % in import taxes/duties which translates into $5500 + S&h to denmark!

With taxes like that, you guys should have a revolution!

yeah....
But all in all we all pay the same, in america
as in denmark...its just a question of when!.
I guess its a matter of how our governments
spend our money!
, all we have is free dentests for our children america has more prettier Nuclear missles than we have