Will's flyweight .458 WinMag is so equipped:



This was found in the latest issue (Spring 2008) page 14 of Under Wild Skies:



I do not think any filing on that sight is warranted.

Will just needs to get a 1-pound stock instead of a 2-pound stock for his rifle in order to make a respectable 6.28 pound rifle. He should keep the mercury out of his Depends also. He should just hang it up if he cannot do any better than 7.28 pounds for a .458 Win Mag.

Anyway, thanks to Will for letting us know the CZ peep is available from NECG. I am ordering two of those right now. Looks good.

That rear peep looks kind of funky/dainty to me....

Well, so be it! The CZ peep by NECG is more massive than the Ruger peep by NECG, and thankfully less massive than the Weaver NECG peep.

Dainty is not a bad thing with a peep sight.

The Talley peep is daintiest of all.

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Originally posted by Macifej:
That rear peep looks kind of funky/dainty to me....

You must be joking? The peep supplied on my F.N. Mauser was a bit of bent tin. Or "stamped" might be the upmarket term.

Maybe I'll make up a few for you guys to tinker with.

Good, I could use about another 2 Lbs weight on my .458 that no one want's to talk about.

Hi,
It looks like this on my Brno ZG 47 in .404 Jeffery;





After a close shave with a Buffalo, last year in Save, Zimbabwe. I decided that my Leupold Vari X II 1-4 no longer was an option for a dangerous game rifle in my posession. Haven't zeroed the peep sight yet, but do I like it? YES!

Looks to fit/blend in a lot more than some peeps.

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Originally posted by JAL:
Looks to fit/blend in a lot more than some peeps.

It's OK for the price, nice machined and seems to be built to last. I could have one custom made for some hundreds of dollars here in Sweden, but with the US$ nearly as low as the Cuban Pesos, the peep sight was worth every Pesos -sorry dollar!

Keep buying American - our starving masses need the money!

Nice pics of the peep.

One other thing I did was to drill out the smaller hole to the larger diameter of the loop. Easier to look through.

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Originally posted by JAL:
Good, I could use about another 2 Lbs weight on my .458 that no one want's to talk about.

Tell me more.

Hi Will,
How large hole did you drill? Could you send a pic of it, just for comparsion?


I try to buy as much as I can from the US!

Nice looking peep, yes Will, get the drill out on that peep.

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Originally posted by Will:
Keep buying American - our starving masses need the money!

which means DONT buy from NECG as those are all racknagle products.

Darn good and tough looking site, far superios to the necg ruger design

A question for those with this sight....have you considered filing off the "wings" on either side of the apeture? Not having shot one they look a bit distracting, this is a question for my education, not a knock on the sight.

JP,
they remind me of the m1 carbine/m14 rear... indestructable

Hello jeffeosso,
What basis would you use to say that it is superior, far superior, to the NECG Ruger sight?
I do like the simpler less cluttered body of the sight and could probably make one work for the Ruger as well. Depends on the dovetail dimension. I own the Ruger NECG sight and only real complaint is the fairly sharp corners on the sight body itself, but those can be quickly beveled and cold blued to make good apearance.

No one has shown a picture revealing the left side of the CZ peep.

Is there a tab on the peep sight that fits into recoil shoulder slot of the integral base on the rear bridge?

Husky: Do all your rifles have bassackward safeties?

One bassackward safety would be more dangerous to my health than a boat load of 1X-4X variable scopes.

I would have to have that safety welded into the "fire" position and just use the bolt handle as my 3-position safety:

1. Bolt open: safe
2. Bolt closed, handle up: less safe
3. Bolt closed, handle down: Fire in the hole!

Dsiteman,
the elevation lock, which is seperate in the CZ model, vs locking down the apeture on the ruger, as well as as being a more protected design from the apeture,

I've owned both the ruger and weaver necg... and this design is certainly a more rugged designed.
jeffe

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Originally posted by RIP:
No one has shown a picture revealing the left side of the CZ peep.

Is there a tab on the peep sight that fits into recoil shoulder slot of the integral base on the rear bridge?

Husky: Do all your rifles have bassackward safeties?

One bassackward safety would be more dangerous to my health than a boat load of 1X-4X variable scopes.

I would have to have that safety welded into the "fire" position and just use the bolt handle as my 3-position safety:

1. Bolt open: safe
2. Bolt closed, handle up: less safe
3. Bolt closed, handle down: Fire in the hole!

RIP,
Sportsmen as we are, we love to give the dangerous game as much advantages as possible, so my battery of rifles has all kinds of safties one can ask for in order to confuse my self in the most dangerous situatios

The 'backward' safty on Brno ZG 47 is in my opinion far better than the Win type safty, and it is not confusing at all, atleast not if you are familiar with revolvers, to unsafe and make the rifle ready for 'fire in the hole', one just pretends to cock the hammer on your belowed S&W M 29 .44 Magnum and pull the trigger, backwards of course!

I will take a photo of the mysterious left side of the peep sight -just for you RIP!

And I'll take a pic of my filed down one.

Since you are all waiting for the other side, here it is:



It's on my 416 Rigby.

Thanks, Wink.
That is a good one. Picture and sight design.

Jeffe,
Yep, I see the similarity, and honestly, if you drill the apeture out to more of a "ghost ring" size, and you are looking through it as you should, you'll never see the protective "wings".

Now that we're all feeling warm and fuzzy about the NECG peep sight, let me remind you that you will have to 1) change the factory front sight bead for something appropriate, such as:



(RIP, sorry about the quality of this particular photo). Fortunately this sourdough post is also available from NECG. It requires a little fitting so best left to a gunsmith unless you have some good files and don't mind bubba-ing. I don't have any good files but I don't mind bubba-ing and did it myself.

And 2, you will have to remove the factory rear express V sight, assuming you've got a factory set-up. By the way, with this set-up I can keep my shots in a 6 inch circle at 100 yards off the sticks with no problem (notwithstanding the DT's, bad eyes, so called friends calling my shots, etc). I've quit shooting off the Lead-sled and only shoot off my sticks now. It's the only way I can know how I will really shoot in a hunting situation.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

It seems to be a misconception that there has to be a post front sight with a peep. Not sure why that is. Well, it is a misconception to me anyway.

The way I view a peep or ghost ring rear sight is that it just replaces the rear sight. I still want a bead front sight.

Tell me where I am wrong. Which I'm not.

Will, if you have placed the NECG peep sight on a factory CZ 550 you will notice that you've got in your sight picture a very encumbered front sight because you will be seeing mostly the base of the front bead. Now, you can obviously leave it like that, but you won't get the natural centering in the middle that makes a peep a great sight. If the factory front bead were stuck on top of a longer thinner post it might work, but that's not what the factory front bead looks like.

Will and Wink,
Both good choices.
I like either.

The Gold Sourdough "patridge" blade/post (not "partridge" please) is finest for me, with either a square-notch-flattop rear sight, or a peep.

A big white or gold or even (shudder) fiber optic bead is fast as it gets with a ghost-ring for DG. But I would prefer a flip-up moon bead and a smaller target bead to boot.

Different strokes, I guess, but I'm not buying it.

I do not have a factory CZ 550M with factory sights so I don't know how the peep lines up with the factory sights. Is it in-line? I suppose it must be, or should be.

With the 458 WM I made the peep sits up high compared to the skinny barrel and therefore had to use an extra high NECG (Universal) front sight. I used an extra large white bead.

I still do not "see" the problem of a bead over a post. Whatever.

Will, I thought I would like the NECG with the factory front bead myself, until I looked through it. It's hard to describe in words and almost impossible to photograph it. It sucks. I've been fine with beads on other peep sights and kind of hoped it would work. Unfortunately the only real option is to change the factory bead for the NECG sourdough patridge post. So I ordered the replacement front post and it's a better choice on the factory rifle. If I wanted to spend money on the best choice, it would most likely line right up with your choice. By the way I bought your book.

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By the way I bought your book.

Then, Hell, you know more than I do.

Hell! I could make that peep work just fine with the factory bead and a dab of white enamel on the factory bead, as long as the adjustments zeroed.

I read Will's book too, so I am as smart as Wink!

Is that sight considered QD, in that it retains zero if removed and remounted?

Yes.
There is a locking screw (hex-head socket) on the left side knurled finger nutted screw. The big nuts are also slotted for screw driver. The right side is free to be unscrewed by QD finger or screw driver turning of the knurled nut only.

That left side is fixed in final adjustment, and contains the recoil stop, we now know.

You could degrease and Loctite the left hand nuts and screws to reassure no shift of POI, but it really should not be necessary.

This is how the Ruger peep by NECG works also.

(Cyberspace comments by RIP, who is waiting until tomorrow to order a couple of those peeps for the CZ offered by NECG.)

Is the NECG peep site adjustable for elevation as well as windage? Can you mount a scope

Thanks,
Chuck

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Originally posted by Will:
Keep buying American - our starving masses need the money!

This said by the man putting it on a foreign built rifle.. LOL

So I take it you are starving?

I've got 5 bucks I'll send you!

You don't see the irony in your statement? LOL Lighten up.

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Originally posted by Will:

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Originally posted by JAL:
Good, I could use about another 2 Lbs weight on my .458 that no one want's to talk about.

Tell me more.

Re the weight? It's under 9 Lb empty.
Re talk? I might have mentioned it's a stock standard M70, which didn't help.
Then when I mentioned PF, kiss of death with you fellers.

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Originally posted by JAL:

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Originally posted by Will:

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Originally posted by JAL:
Good, I could use about another 2 Lbs weight on my .458 that no one want's to talk about.

Tell me more.

Re the weight? It's under 9 Lb empty.
Re talk? I might have mentioned it's a stock standard M70, which didn't help.
Then when I mentioned PF, kiss of death with you fellers.

I think my last Lott weighed 8.6 lbs., which I did on purpose. It was just too much for me. I wish I could shoot those big boomiers but I can't at the range, even standing. The best alternative, I think, is just to shoot light loads at the range and save the big stuff for hunting.

My own limit is the 5000 ft-lb stuff like the 458 WM, etc.