After Xmas my smith has finally said he'd be able to start on my .585 rifle. Many of you are aware I used to own a .585 Nyati in modern trim. Well I sold that to build a .585 HE in African garb.

Question is what's people's take on Quarter Rib v Island. Ax far as Islands go I don't mind the look of Ryan Breedings Island bases.

Either way I want either option to be in proportion to the thickness of .577 barrel.

Cheers pc

Which ever you choose I would avoid any with set screws and go instead with ones whose sight inserts need to be knocked in with a drift.Then have your smith make the insert fit tight because they do not always come with a tight fit from the maker.

I think your point about the barrel is correct.
A 585 with a heavy barrel and little taper would probably look best with a quarter rib.
Adds a little weight too.

the difference? about $1500

both look great, BUT the proportions are going to be important --

but, the third lug will be the most important

I would opt on such a gun to have an integral quarter rib, barrel band swivel, and front sight...but if soldered on: a island, rear sight barrel band, and front sight barrel band would be second best...Big difference in price of the two as a rule, but a rifle in that caliber is expensive to start with, so Id go first class..

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
I would opt on such a gun to have an integral quarter rib, barrel band swivel, and front sight...but if soldered on: a island, rear sight barrel band, and front sight barrel band would be second best...Big difference in price of the two as a rule, but a rifle in that caliber is expensive to start with, so Id go first class..

Agree Ray.....to that end I have asked the question how much more expensive for integral, if it's ok on my wallet ill do it, if its mind numbingly expensive for me I'll have him solder the 1/4 rib on....reality is he'd be soldering or screwing an aftermarket Island on. This guy is good, I mean really good, one of the best. When he completed my .404 J (that I stupidly sold) he soldered that 1/4 rib on and you were hard pressed to see the join the job was that well done.

I need to get this rifle finished it's been there 4 years. I am looking forwards to getting it.

I wonder what the proper designation on the barrel should be for a .585 Hubel Express ?

Is it .585 HE or written out in full ?

This suggestion is likely not traditional.
I was considering going down the same path as you but with a CZ 550 : 458 Lott. I wanted the quarter rib. Just looks right!
I was on the AHR web site the other day and They have real neat ghost ring that sits on the rear of the receiver.
That leaves a totally clean barrel save the front sight.
Also better for older eyes that are challenged focusing on there separate distances at once.
Might check it out.
I use a Brockman peep on my 416 and 375's ( model 70 and Kimber 89) in Talley detachable mounts. It is spring loaded so it compresses when a scope is attached.
Leaves the rear of the barrel clean as well.
Food for thought and practical.
Quarter ribs sure look nice!

EZ

If you have to ask the price on a full integral barrel, you probably ought to get the solder and screws out, as $3000 wouldn't be out of line...solder and screws make up a nice rifle.

An option might be to find and old German classic with a heavy full rib or half rib to round and have it rebored..Ive done that before and made some nice rifles but not in .585, might be hard to find enough metal..