Is there anyone around the San Luis Obispo area of CA that has a 458 Lott they would be willing to let me shoot a few rounds from? I'd like to experience the jump in recoil from a 375 to the 458 Lott before I make the plunge and get one.

Thanks,

iah is a 250 flight... i can get you behind one

Sevens, you should come to the bigbore shoot here in Houston May 2nd. Lots of opportunity here.
Rodney.

Too bad I don't live in Texas. Seems like the place for big bores.

7s, we will let you come over for a vist and let you play with our toys.

Keith

Sevens, it would be worth the trip. The biggest of guns and the greatest of people. Not a better opportunity presents itself to observe, handle and fire such a wide array of the finest rifles.
Rodney.

This is how I am trying to get there. I may be cheaper for you from SLO.
http://www.southwest.com/cgi-bin/showOrPrice

Havn't decided if I can do this and the DRSS shoot the next week.


If that doesn't work out for you and you don't mind driving down to Santa Barbara or Ojai, you can shoot my Lott, .375, 11.2x72, .358 Norma or my 500 BPE. I will also have my .416 AR when I get there.
I am available on the weekends, all day or for a few hours each day during the week.
My cell when I am down there 707 496 1883
At home there 805 486 8282.

I plan to head back on Friday so will be available after that.
Going to Dallas really is a lot of fun as I have done so a couple of times and really learned a bunch from the guys there.
Keith's rifles built on Rem. 30's are are very sweet.

Big bore shoot in Houston May 2nd?

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Originally posted by Sevens:
Is there anyone around the San Luis Obispo area of CA that has a 458 Lott they would be willing to let me shoot a few rounds from? I'd like to experience the jump in recoil from a 375 to the 458 Lott before I make the plunge and get one.

Thanks,

Good move - if I had been able to do this I do not think I would have bought mine. Its not too bad for recoil whilst standing but its a swine off the bench & gives me a headache!

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Originally posted by Frank Martinez:

If that doesn't work out for you and you don't mind driving down to Santa Barbara or Ojai, you can shoot my Lott, .375, 11.2x72, .358 Norma or my 500 BPE. I will also have my .416 AR when I get there.
I am available on the weekends, all day or for a few hours each day during the week.
My cell when I am down there 707 496 1883
At home there 805 486 8282.

I plan to head back on Friday so will be available after that.

Frank,

SB wouldn't be too bad of a drive. I'll give you a call here in the next few days to see if we can work something out.

Thank you,

Nothing to try Al. The .458 Lott is double the .375. Don't take the plunge, if you have to ask, it is way too much recoil.

Sevens,

If you handload you can of course load the Lott from mild to heavy as one wishes. Factory Lott loads will be a big step up from your 375. The 375 lets you know you are firing a serious round, but full Lott loads demand respect and proper big bore technique more than the 375 IMO. No stock crawling and a FIRM hold is required.

I love the Lott round...it is very versatile and I use it from ground squirrels with 405s to rock busting with full 500gr loads. My RSM Lott is my favorite bigger bore for sure.

I like my 375s and have three. They are a great caliber/rifle. My Lott has more "personality" to me and demands more of me. I like that! IMO one needs to WANT to shoot the Lott well at higher loadings and learn how to do it. Mind you I am no DG hunter, just a guy who like big bores. I hunt varmints with many arms and my NA big game rifle is a 338 Lapua. No experience with the big nasty critters

If you like your 375 the Lott is a step up...a big step if you shoot full factory Lott loads. If you don't handload now I would encourage you to do so, if not for the cost savings Start at lower 458 loadings and work your way up. Learn and adjust/correct for the heavier recoil. If YOU want to shoot the Lott well you will, with time and practice!

John

I bought a .375 H&H CZ. It's WAY too big, and a waste of the action for a 375. I thought it recoiled. Then, I put a brake on it. I followed that with shooting a Lott, 500 Nitro Express, and, .510 Van Horn( think .510 Wells, in a short action).

Suffice to say, without a PABST recoil pad on my shoulder, I should be shooting a 30-06. With one, I'm buying the .510 Van Horn.

It's all about who setup the rifle, if it fits you, and, how you load, or don't load it. If you keep pressure under 40k, you have a big cased 458 Win mag, with less recoil, also known as a 450 Nitro Express. If that isn't enough, what are you shooting in Kali????

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If that isn't enough, what are you shooting in Kali????

Nothing sadly, just full of dreams and ambition. I like my CZ 375 and find it to be very comfortable to shoot. I just remember shooting a 500 Jeffery and having one major headache after, hence why I want to try the Lott first. Since I seriously doubt I'll get to shoot that many elephants in my life, if any, I'd rather have a 416 or 458 Win Mag I can comfortably shoot all the time than a Lott I can't.

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Originally posted by Frank Martinez:
Keith's rifles built on Rem. 30's are are very sweet.

Thanks Frank.

It will be good to see you again.

Keith

I own one The CZ 550 458 Lott. The recoil isn't to bad at all. The stock fit me to a tee and that cut down on the recoil. It has 76 ft lbs of recoil shooting a 500gr bullet at 2350 fps.

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Originally posted by Sevens:
Too bad I don't live in Texas. Seems like the place for big bores.

Everything is big in Texas...

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Originally posted by Sevens:
if any, I'd rather have a 416 or 458 Win Mag I can comfortably shoot all the time than a Lott I can't.

Sevens, I recently went through kind of the same thing. I fully intend to go to Africa several times & wanted the "ultimate rifle" FOR ME.
Currently I have a 375 H+H, 416 Rem Mag and am going to (soon I hope) build a 404J. I live in Alberta, and there just isnt alot of access all the time to 416 & 423 cal. bullets, so any amount of excessive shooting, is failry costly & not always easily done. So I got to thinking, one thing there is a bunch of is 458 cal. bullets, and comparingly relatively cheap. So I figured I needed a 458 of some flavor. I have shot several 458 WM's with no issues, so was thinking for more versatility in how I load them, I set out to find a Lott......and did, it will be @ AHR by next week.
My thinking was/is that i can load it anywhere from 45/70 levels to fullhouse Lott loads, if'n I find the fullhouse loads to be too much, I will load down, but I believe that its more of a mentl thing, I want (and will) learn to shoot the Lott proficiently.

My 375, 404j, and the Lott are all built on the same action, so I will be easily allowed to switch back & forth between the 3 without too much complication.

IMO if you want a cheaper shooting Big bore, you cant go wrong with a 458.

Sevens:
Do you reload? The problem with any gun you use factory ammo is is they are trying to make money, read use a cheap, high recoiling powder, with high pressure and that =recoil.

I agree that the 458 Lott is an easy upgrade for the 375 H&H.

Jack Huntington Advanced Gunsmithing has a rebarreling machine, and, the CZ 375 can be rebarreled easily to 458 Lott, though it would probably require another recoil lug, and, some custom fitting. Figure 750 dollars by the time you get done.

That said, you might be able to pick up a used Lott for that amount of money.

As for recoil: The Lott with 2300 fps 500 grain bullets hit me hard enough that I won't shoot it again without a shoulder PAST recoil pad. When I shoot such rifles, I'm taking a 1 X 4, stuffing it into my shoulder in a way that would be perfect to separate my shoulder, and, hitting it with 76 ft lbs of sledge hammer on the other end. This is enough to really get ones attention.

A Pabst shoulder recoil pad will spread it out, so it doesn't get a chance to do real damage to your shoulder.

As for the headache: warm up by boxing a few rounds, and, you won't notice:

Here I am shooting the Lott...

Steven,

I have a Lott, and live in Fresno. If you ever find yourself over here and our schedules work out (difficult with job and family), I'd be happy to let you shoot it. We could go to the local range. I don't find it overbearing to shoot. I don't like putting a bunch of rounds through it, but about 5 or so at a time isn't bad. Though I do sometimes have a headache afterwards. Mine is a CZ that Wayne at AHR went over, changing most everything about it. It has the removable muzzle brake he makes, which really cuts down the recoil. Probably making it similar to the .375. I, being a glutten for punishment, usually forget to put the brake on. Rich.

Jro that's the same recoil value I get with my 500 Jeffery shootng 535g Woodleighs at 2175 fps with 120g of IMR4350. My jeffery weighs in at 11.25 lbs empty.

Regards,

Chuci