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Any BRNO/CZ collectors or fanatics here?
21 October 2010, 04:07
umshiniwamAny BRNO/CZ collectors or fanatics here?
Hi,
I'm a BRNO (CZ) fanatic. Not yet a collector.
I have a CZ 550 .375 H&H and a .22lr ZKM.
I'd be interested to hear what Czechs you guys have. If you have some photos, please post them here. Anything unusual, customised or even stock-standard.
I see there was a member named "ALF" who seemed to be a fundi, ut it appears that he no longer is a member, and a lot of what he had posted in the past has been deleted.
Cheers.
21 October 2010, 06:00
jeffeosso- Alf has deleted tons of his own posts, as "has been deleted" infers a third party .. its by his own hand - i've posted about this a couple times
btw, CZ and BRNO are different companies -- not just different labels
there's basically the 600, 601, and 602, which, iirc corrosponds to some of the various cz 550 actions .. but i am not an expert in then difference, and i've largely forgotten the Xref ..
cheers
21 October 2010, 06:35
500NCZ 550 is the modern version of the old 602.
550's range from crap to good, 602's the same with the best one's
the one's with the in built peep sight.
The 60X were the small actions.
Best way to see examples is to look on gun sites like Guns International, Guns america etc etc and whichever one's are applicable in the UK, Aust etc.
And if you find any ZG47's, let me know !!! LOL
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21 October 2010, 07:08
fla3006How about a pimped out ZG47?
NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS.
Shoot & hunt with vintage classics.
21 October 2010, 12:56
umshiniwamquote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
- Alf has deleted tons of his own posts, as "has been deleted" infers a third party .. its by his own hand - i've posted about this a couple times
btw, CZ and BRNO are different companies -- not just different labels
there's basically the 600, 601, and 602, which, iirc corrosponds to some of the various cz 550 actions .. but i am not an expert in then difference, and i've largely forgotten the Xref ..
cheers
So Alf deleted his intellectual property before leaving? Pity.
I agree that CZ & BRNO are different companies, but the ZKK rifles (as well as the ZKW 465 miniature Mauser and the ZKM rimfire) which were stamped "BRNO" were manufactured by CZ in Uhersky Brod. The commies (for some reason) required that all sporting rifles produced in Czechoslovakia must be marked "BRNO". After the fall of communism, this requirement fell away, and the factory in Brno reclaimed their name as their trademark.
The CZ 550 is a refinement of the ZKK 600 (std length) & 602 (Magnum). The bolt shroud and safety has been changed,as has the trigger.
Earlier models such as the ZG47 and models 21 & 22 were in fact manufactured at the Brno arsenal.
This is my understanding, tough information on this available on the internet is sketchy and sometimes conflicting.
21 October 2010, 15:39
FATBOY404I have a 404j on a 602.
A 9.3x62 on a 600
and am building a 8x68s on a 600.
21 October 2010, 15:58
umshiniwamquote:
Originally posted by fla3006:
How about a pimped out ZG47?
That is a beaut!
21 October 2010, 16:00
umshiniwamquote:
Originally posted by FATBOY404:
I have a 404j on a 602.
A 9.3x62 on a 600
and am building a 8x68s on a 600.
Nice. Is the .404 ex-factory or custom?
I have read somewhere that there was a limited number of .404s built on the 602 action, at the CZ factory.
21 October 2010, 17:34
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by umshiniwam:
So Alf deleted his intellectual property before leaving? Pity.
let me set you straight .. Alf has been doing this delete thing FOR YEARS .. why? i can't speak for his motivation ... IP? null program .. free contribution on a forum is not "his" IP .. and he hasn't left, he's just not posting the last couple days ...
quote:
Originally posted by umshiniwam:
I agree that CZ & BRNO are different companies, ...
thanks ..
quote:
Originally posted by umshiniwam:
The CZ 550 is a refinement of the ZKK 600 (std length) & 602 (Magnum). The bolt shroud and safety has been changed,as has the trigger.
a 602 bottom metal could be cobbled to fit and work on a 550 .. but that doesn't mean much, as it's not 2 way,... the trigger is fundamentally different and incompatable, based off data from experts at modifying the 550 magnum.. triggers, safeeies, etc ..
quote:
Originally posted by umshiniwam:
This is my understanding, tough information on this available on the internet is sketchy and sometimes conflicting.
my data is specific to the 602 vs 550 magnum .. pretty much incompatable parts .. they only look alike, not fit alike .. but hey, i could e wrong
Please understand that alf may or may nor be active here, but that's his choice, and revising his own posts is also his choice
call Jason at CZ- USA, or email him, and ask for the history.
http://cz-usa.com/about-cz-ub/http://cz-usa.com/about-cz-usa/http://cz-usa.com/contact-us/21 October 2010, 17:37
J DI have a zzk in 30-06 with a nice fixed 6x kassel optic rail mounted scope, and one in 458 win mag, I need to glass bed the 550 stock I put her in, then she will be ready to go. I have a new unused hog back if any one need one for the 458.
JD
DRSS
9.3X74 tika 512
9.3X74 SXS
Merkel 140 in 470 Nitro
21 October 2010, 21:01
MasteriflemanI have a ZKK-602 in .416 Rigby (formerly .375 H & H).
"I ask, sir, what is the Militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them" - George Mason, co-author of the Second Amendment during the Virginia convention to ratify the Constitution
21 October 2010, 21:54
fla3006375H&H and 458Lott:
NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS.
Shoot & hunt with vintage classics.
22 October 2010, 05:21
FATBOY404Very nice fla3006 !!.
My 404 is a custom.It was a 458.
22 October 2010, 12:57
umshiniwamquote:
Originally posted by fla3006:
375H&H and 458Lott:
Very, very nice!
29 October 2010, 08:32
tenmikemikeBesides the two rifles below in my sig line I also have a CZ 75 B in .40 S&W. I'm starting to feel like a collector!
NRA Endowment Life member
CZ 550 American 9.3 X 62 Mauser/ Leupold VX-3 2.5-8 x 36
CZ 550 Safari Classic .458 Lott
29 October 2010, 13:14
John FrederickI have BRNO's (BA) in .22RF, .22 Hornet, .375 H&H and a SXS Shotgun 12ga. Their years of manufacture are 1956, 79, 82, 85, respectively.
Quality is excellent and none have given the slightest problem in many years and all were bought new. All shoot sub MoA and I wouldn't part with any of them.
I have no experience with CZ's.

29 October 2010, 20:48
Michael RobinsonI love my CZs. They're about the most under-rated actions and rifles on earth, IMHO.
I should add that I use the actions and rifles only as places to start, and then have the rifle I want built or modified to suit my tastes.
Mike
Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
30 October 2010, 20:27
ovnyI´m not fanatic of Ceska or Brno, but I´ve got one Ceska 550 Magnum in 375 H&H Magnum and one Ceska 550 Safari Magnun in 458 Lott.
Bye,
Oscar.
I am Spanish
My forum:www.armaslargasdecaza.com
30 October 2010, 20:28
ovnyquote:
Originally posted by fla3006:
375H&H and 458Lott:
I like the sights of your rifles.
Oscar.
I am Spanish
My forum:www.armaslargasdecaza.com