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15 August 2007, 07:46
CRUSHER
more pics TRAIN WRECK OR GOOD RIFLE?
I am building this thing and it seems to be getting away from me 1917 enfield 458 lott mpi stock custom scout mount/quarter rib eo tech aand scout scope plus 2.5x8 leoupold shoots great feeds great looks like hell so ugly its kinda pretty.


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15 August 2007, 07:57
Hog Killer
Crusher, well I must admit, sofa this is the first big bore I have seen with a ZYLAPHONE MOUNTED TO IT. jumping

Keith


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15 August 2007, 07:59
Hog Killer
One thing about this set up, you should be able to get the scope far enough away to keep your eyebrow in good shape.

Keep us posted,

Keith


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15 August 2007, 08:12
Macifej
Now THAT! was funny!

There's enough rail on that beast to mount a tactical light, night scope, rangefinder, barometer, and a megaphone.
15 August 2007, 08:21
Big Bore Boar Hunter
There you have it! A big bore swiss army knife. Just be careful where you put that corkscrew.

John
15 August 2007, 08:23
CRUSHER
well the rifle only weighed in at 8 lbs and I had this 2.5 power scout scope left over from an m1a project so I wanted a scout mount and a little more weight. sooo the rail came in a standard leingth and after I cut a piece off for the back scope mount I barly had enough for the scout scope and I wanted to be able to mount a standard scope incase I hated the scout. I pulled up just short of integral pop up sights in the rail and decided to use an eo tech as my back up iron sights. because I will have this rifle in africa in about 30 days. I have a little belt pouch for the back up sight and its is lit and all kinds of neat stuff. digginI just had to stop in time to parkerize before the trip.


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15 August 2007, 08:32
Big Bore Boar Hunter
Let me know how well that EOTech holds up!

John
15 August 2007, 08:36
CRUSHER
I have one on a 416 rem that works great and they are bullet resistant for sure.
I am kinda reluctant to post a picture of it because I turned a one piece weaver base bass ackward and added a screw through it to the rear sight base to make the scout mount on it. but it works like a champ.


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15 August 2007, 12:09
Sambar 9.3
As long as you're happy with it. To me it looks ugly, but then I did kind of like my old Minimi and feel that an A 10 can be handy to have on your side, too.

Good luck, go for it, and keep us posted on how it works out?


Cheers, Dave.

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15 August 2007, 19:13
CARLOSTHEJACKAL
It is ugly, however, there is an old saying that ugly girls f**k the best. Perhaps this will be true your rifle. banana


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15 August 2007, 19:16
Michael Robinson
I would say it's not quite a train wreck but it is certainly a train. Like the old timers used to call a heavy rifle, an express train.

Put one of those Picatinny rails on the underside of the barrel and you could mount a Surefire for night shooting PAC elephant! Big Grin


Mike

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15 August 2007, 20:03
jeffeosso
Man, it sure looks FUNCTIONAL... not my fovrite, but it sure looks like it will work.

how much did the quarter ton rib/rail weigh?


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15 August 2007, 21:17
CRUSHER
mr lexma there is enough room in front of the eo tech for the light almost like it was made that way on purpose dancing ill post a pic with light when I finish parkerizeing

carlos eager beats pretty I always say

jeffe It is just shy of ten pounds dry but I dont need the girly brake.


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15 August 2007, 21:21
CRUSHER
the ruger quarter rib from their scout rifle with integral scope mounts would be better looking but I did not have time to make an adapter from ruger ring to the eo tech/weaver rail


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15 August 2007, 21:35
TC1
quote:
So ugly it was kinda pretty


I had a dog like that once. He was a good pet and a dear friend.

I'll be interested in seeing if the Eotech is up to the task.

Terry


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16 August 2007, 01:05
N E 450 No2
CRUSHER

Form follows function.
I would recommend you use several screws to hold the front rail to the action/bbl.

The 458 has quite a bit of quick acceleration/recoil velocity.

My only worry would be the screws of the base shearing off.

I broke 3 sets of SAKO scope mounts on a 20" bbled SAKO 375 H&H Handy Rifle.

If the EO-Tech does not stand up you might try the Zeiss Z-Point. They advised me it will take the recoil of the 500's.

Just use more screws, it really hurts when the scope flies off the rifle ahd hits you in the face, Eeker Mad [see comments about the SAKO above.


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16 August 2007, 01:08
CRUSHER
I have six 8x40 screws in the bases total 4 in the front rail I think it will be enough good point though ill keep an eye on them


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16 August 2007, 01:14
N E 450 No2
CRUSHER

I think I would put a couple more in the front rail.

Also if you check around you can find some pretty neat rear "iron" sights that fit the rail system.

Rail bases are actually pretty good as they make a wide variety of sighting systems possible.

With a good quaility rail and good quality mounts return to zero is very good.


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25 August 2007, 07:09
CRUSHER
getting closer

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and ok just for you wise asses



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25 August 2007, 07:30
Robgunbuilder
I salute you for actually doing your own work! well done! I frankly think it looks mean and I'll bet the Eotech sight holds up but its mount may not. Nice work and keep it up!-Rob


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25 August 2007, 07:50
Oregon45
Now that is cool!
25 August 2007, 07:55
CRUSHER
rob thank you for the kind words means a lot from you .

plese take note no popstick inside this mpi stock but 2 pins plain to see

paint drying on the stock now.


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25 August 2007, 08:04
Robgunbuilder
You have to have courage and skill to do what you've done. The more you do the better and better your results will get. Few have the abilities to build a DGR by themselves and you should be proud of yourself! My EOTECH is on a 14 inch 500S&W pistol that kicks like hell. If it holds up to THAT a LOTT SHOULD BE NO PROBLEM.-Rob


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25 August 2007, 08:12
Grandpasez
I love Enfields. That's great work, Ed


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25 August 2007, 08:52
Indlovu
Now all you have to do is paint it DIGITAL cam ouflage, add a flash supressor (in case the hyena shoot back), a zytel pistol grip, a tactical flashlight, tactical illuminated reticle night scope,a green laser to blind the animals, a red laser to range them,and a remote RF triggering device linked to a digital trail camera, and you will have the ULTIMATE TACTICAL SAFARI RIFLE
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Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
CRUSHER

Form follows function.
I would recommend you use several screws to hold the front rail to the action/bbl.

The 458 has quite a bit of quick acceleration/recoil velocity.

My only worry would be the screws of the base shearing off.

I broke 3 sets of SAKO scope mounts on a 20" bbled SAKO 375 H&H Handy Rifle.

If the EO-Tech does not stand up you might try the Zeiss Z-Point. They advised me it will take the recoil of the 500's.

Just use more screws, it really hurts when the scope flies off the rifle ahd hits you in the face, Eeker Mad [see comments about the SAKO above.

25 August 2007, 09:02
CRUSHER
ok I admit I spent a lot of time training to shoot at folks with a bolt gun and I am toy oriented . sue me.coffee


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25 August 2007, 09:09
CRUSHER
I am painting it but just plain green. did you miss the tac light and illuninated scope alerady there? I tryed the zeytel handel but it kept breaking off due to recoil and realy hurt my elbow , poor ergonomics. I have a real live cameraman can range with my naked eye to within +- 3 cm and I plan to be close enough to smell their breath so muzzle flash will blind them. and so far as I have seen I have the most tactical safari rifle ever already. jumping jumping


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25 August 2007, 16:50
p dog shooter
I peronaly like ugly rifles. After the first owner gets tired of them. They are cheap to buy and most of the time shoot well. dancing
25 August 2007, 21:59
surestrike
Well......It is unique. I doubt that you'll see another like it. Wink

It also looks functional for a night shooting crop raider, thumper.



26 August 2007, 00:55
RIP
Good work. thumb
If you have four 8x40 screws holding the scout base and two more on the rear picatinny, that is plenty.

Just use JB Weld to bed and adhere the rail wherever it contacts the barrel or action.

I have a similar (shorter!) cross-slotted rail on the barrel of my .510JAB/500A2 Ruger No.1. It has only four 8x40 screws and it is glued down with JB Weld, and it has never been a problem in over 200 shots with scopes from 1.5x5 to 4x16 Mildot, both held on with 4 rings.

The JB Weld will be nearly invisible and is easily removable with heat from a torch ... but you will never need to mess with it again if you use JB Weld.