>The BAR are too small in caliber and only have 3 or 5 shot magazines! Who would pick one of those for a Stopper??<

Ever fired a BAR? Ever seen one?

YOU ALL taking about a BAR Browning Auto rifle is stylishly made, that has the neat gas system and is in such calibers as .300, 338, 3006?

OR

Are you talking about a full auto BAR, 30-06, 20 round, box fed, firing from open bolt, cyclic rate of about 400 rounds a minute?

Having fired both somewhat extensively, I would say the full auto BAR loaded with AP would be a somewhat formidable piece of work. NOT the most accurate thing but is definitely within 1 minute of buffalo when they would be at 30 feet or so.

I have watched some of the Mark Sullivan charges and I think I could break down/stop something with the BAGG. Not the handiest at about 14 pounds but definitely doable. Something about a swarm of 30-06 AP at close range give a fair feeling of reassurance.

I am talking of the Browning M1918A1 or M1918A2. Select fire with 20 round magazine, fast full auto at 550 rounds per minute.

Back to reality, kiddies!

SxS double in .500 nitro with 24-inch tubes, 10 3/4 lb, FITTED!

The 500 nitro again!
I haven't done a count but it seems to have quite a few supporters on the thread.

I always thought the 500 would be the best compromise between the 'normal nitro expresses' and the two true elephant calibres(577 and 600).
But some big game writers list it's 'in between-ness' as one of the reasons it was not so popular.

Interesting...

Karl.

If I can (And I will never) afford it, it could be Westley Richards double in .700/.577

I have no expirience in African hunt, but belive .375 or .416 caliber could be as good stopper as .500 or .577, What you need is good penetration, bone shattering and aim at good place. If you miss brain or hearth with .416, it is the same like miss it with .700NE. Bigger round mean bigger recoil and more difficult secondary shot. Good one could be ejector double rifle (Heym, Searcy . . .) in .500/.416 nitro . . .

Jiri

Jeri,
This is a hunting shooting forum, so take your anti bush antics and your stupidity elsewhere, Bush will find him sooner or later...

Once again you reek with anti Americanism..I don't like you for that. I don't like anyone who dislikes my president or my country.

So kiss old spot, who do you think liberated your stupid a$$...

LAWCOP, I was refering to the former in your post. I am not familiar with the M1918A1 or the other one mentioned. I do recall reading here that these rifles, the M1918s, are inaccurate and have forearms that "burst" into flame. These are the statements of others, as I said I have no experience with these guns.

I would pick a MG34 if we are going to use self loading automatic fire weapons.

Axel

Right on Ray! Jiri, I can say what I want about my country and its leadership, and you can do the same about yours. But if YOU want to be critical about MY President and Country, I would be more than happy to show you what "Don't Tread On Me" is all about.

Now 'bout the subject! My Kreighoff 470 really came through when it counted

Jim

Atkinson:

For the first, I am Jiri, not Jeri,

who liberated our country (if you mean WWII) ? Half to half USA and Russia, maybe "bigger half" Russia, who still have our gold treasure (for it)? USA and UK . . . And who sold us to Russians in Jalta ? Who sold us to Russians in 1968 ?

Is there somethink false on that foto ? I belive it is true, you don't ?

Jiri

LAWCOP, the MG34 does not require a two man crew. You can get a "snail" clip for the weapon and fire it one manned. Also, it is not necessary to use a tripod either. The weapon weighs only a few pounds more than your BAR. It is a vastly superior weapons system.

Axel