Looks like the rumors are true. Hornady announced the new line up of DGX bullets today.

DGX Bullets

That is great.I will buy some for my 450NE.

Im sure the day of the bonded bullet has arrived, all the ones Ive used worked perfectly on game..
Ive used the accubonds, the Remington bonded corelokts, pm PG, deer and elk, and tested some others on target..

I like the bonded core bullets. Ive had better luck with bonded cores than I have with most monolithic bullets, GS customs being the exception as its as good a bullet as I have ever used..

But today there are a cornucopia of good bullets out there, hasn't always been that way.

Interestingly I saw Steve Hornady on a hunting show the other day (Sports Afield maybe) where he mentioned that they were coming out. He said in his opinion he didnt think they were necessary, that the older non bonded version was good enough.

I've never used them so I have no opinion but I've heard the non bonded versions opened too quick and some came apart on large game. Any truth to that?

I had poor performance with the DGX bullets in a 375(it was thru a 375 ultra) but failure none the less...and less than spectacular results with a 404 also..if they were not needed then why bring them out...there were problems. I hope this fixes them.

Ed

We have the Nosler Partition, Barnes TSX, Swift A-Frame, and various boutique companies making great bullets. No one needs another POS from Hornady.

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Originally posted by Heym 450/400:
We have the Nosler Partition, Barnes TSX, Swift A-Frame, and various boutique companies making great bullets. No one needs another POS from Hornady.

I don't know why everyone feels the need to crap on hornady. They are responsible for so many innovative products, not to mention bringing many old African calibers back to life.

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Originally posted by Double BC:

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Originally posted by Heym 450/400:
We have the Nosler Partition, Barnes TSX, Swift A-Frame, and various boutique companies making great bullets. No one needs another POS from Hornady.

I don't know why everyone feels the need to crap on hornady. They are responsible for so many innovative products, not to mention bringing many old African calibers back to life.

I agree. TSX is exactly without controversy BTW.

I use SAF and TBBC for my softs in Africa.

I use the Hornadys for practice at home, due to cost.

I too am thankful to Hornady for two reasons: one, they brought back many great old calibers to life, and two, at much cheaper prices than offered before.

IF Hornady can offer these new bonded DGXs at the same (or close) price as the regular DGXs, I think they will have a winner. If not, I think most of us will continue to use the time proven other softs on the market currently.

The more bullets the better for us!

I don't bag on Hornady as I've used the interlock 165 grain BTSP in my 308 for 20+ years of hunting with it and never had a problem. I bought 1,000 of them 20+ years ago and still have one box left.

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Originally posted by 505ED:
..if they were not needed then why bring them out...

Ed

Yes, that was first thought also.

I didn't mean to imply I thought there was anything wrong with Hornady in general, they certainly have breathed new life into some old classics. But they do seem to lack a tough dependable bullet across the board.

Hornady describes the bullet construction as "a copper clad steel jacket".I guess this will be something like a solid or a Winchester fail safe.The bullets are not just bonded they have a steel jacket as well.I am not sure they will shoot as accurate and they might be tough on the rifling and foul heavily.They could have struck out a second time.I think a bonded core with a slightly thicker copper jacket would have been enough.

Fjold,
Have had the exact same experience with the Hornady 165gr Interlock .30 cal bullet! Load it for my grandsons, a few friends, and myself. Have not had one complaint.
Another Lefty

Today, I looked up these bullets/ammo on the Hornady website, and see they are making the bonded DGX in most all of the dangerous game calibers, including, 410 and 423. My 450/400 and 404 Jeffery say 'thank you Hornady'!

Got to be an improvement, but I'd like to see how they perform before first. Not from Missouri but still feel they need to "show me"

Over the last 1/2 century of reloading shooting and hunting I have to say I have seen a LOT more bad shooting than bad bullets.

I have never had a Hornady bullet fail to expand or give adequate penetration. For a while I kept five different hunters who were all using 30-06's hunt on a large Texas ranch and they shot a lot of deer for management. The standard load was 165 Hornadys and I never heard a single complaint.

To each his own

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Originally posted by chuck375:
Got to be an improvement, but I'd like to see how they perform before first. Not from Missouri but still feel they need to "show me"

+1

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No one needs another POS from Hornady.

That's a pretty harsh (and unsubstantiated for the most part) slam on Hornady. Like most things in life one needs to know one's limitations and or the products they use. I too have heard DGX failures here on this website, but also an equal amount of praise,especially the DGS. Hopefully, the new formula won't affect regulation with doubles originally regulated with them.

The only praise I've seen are the "pro-staffers" with a gigantic Hornady sticker on their stock. Usually on a Rooger...

Hornady bullets are 2nd rate...probably 3rd. I too was excited when Hornady brought back some of the classic DR rounds, until I found out their bullets suck, their cases suck and their performance sucks. I'd rather pay $300 a box for something that is quality.

Barnes bullets might have issues with small thinned skinned game and "penciling", but they crush DG. Nosler, Swift and plenty of others rarely disappoint.

The weight variation of .338LM Hornady brass was less than Lapua in a quick test that I ran. I will admit my sample size was small, and I didnt mic the neck thickness, but I use their brass in any number of different rifles that shoot bug holes. I have no idea how many times I have loaded my .308 Win cases. I also like Nosler brass; I know others have said it is too soft, but I haven't had that problem.

I use a lot of Hornady bullets for hunting NA but for Dangerous Game, it's either a Barnes or the CEB.

I've posted pictures of blown-up in buffalo .45 cal DGXs before. Junk. Hornady has a history of junk at the dangerous game level. The DGX replaced the POS African Interbonds and its POS companian solid. What did those two last for, two years? The POS solid actually replaced one that was quite good.

Drop down a level. I don't know anyone who has consist luck getting Interbonds to shoot. How often do their match bullets end up on top? I've posted a picture of un-opened GMX we pulled out of a moose. V-Maxs do have their fans.

The plain old Interlock flat base has proven to work out well for me, I've shots thousands of those in different calibers. It is one of the better C&Cs used within reason, but it being reasonably good for its application doesn't transfer or bestow merit to other bullets for other uses.

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The plain old Interlock flat base has proven to work out well for me, I've shots thousands of those in different calibers. It is one of the better C&Cs used within reason, but it being reasonably good for its application doesn't transfer or bestow merit to other bullets for other uses.

This was my intended point. Hornady interlocks are really pretty damned good bullets provided one keeps below 2900 fps or so. Absolutely no experience with the DGXs, but many of you here have attested to their poor quality, but praised the DGS. but back to my original query, I wonder of the new bonded DGXs will affect regulation in those rifles regulated with the older type.

I've found that Hornady brass is great and I use it whenever I can. 243, 270, 338, 375Rug, 416Rig. They don't do 500 AccRel yet, but Quality Cartridge finally did another run so I'm set for a while.

I've used Nosler when I needed brass ready immediately, but I've also had a batch of 338WM Nosler that split quite a few necks on first fire.

Winchester brass usually needs a little more case prep at the beginning but is a great bang for buck.

The point of this post is that Hornady is a reputable company that has quite a few good-excellent products, even if their bullets are 'entry level'.

Agree that Hornady brass is as good as any.
Detractors are merely breaking wind to hear themselves toot regarding the brass.

However, Hornady, bless their hearts,
sure have had some trouble getting the bullets right.

Bonding the DGX has got to be an improvement,
and I cannot imagine how it might cause change of regulated POI in a double.
But they are steel jacketed, washed with copper,
and I would rather use softer jackets in an ANTIQUE "Pre-War" double rifle.

Rip
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Keep your eyes peeled, you'll probably see the old bullets on sale cheap which can be used for practice!

Hip

My vendor currently has NONE of the new bonded bullets available in 450-400 but has the old DGX on sale at $10 off previous price. Just ordered a couple boxes for practice and to re-load the brass.

Never had an issue with Hornady brass up to and including 500NE. Good stuff IMO. CEB is now my bullet of choice, in both raptor and solids.

I have been using bonded bullets from 300WM up to 458Lott for 20 years. Safari is too expensive not to. However, CEB solids and raptors are now my go to bullets.