Any suggestions on a good outfit to have my Ruger Safari Magnum restocked? The stock was cracked a little and I bed it to se if it would stop but it just kept going.

I want to get it restocked with AA or AAA wood and have the barrel and action mate finished.

First put a real recoil lug on the action (Remington M700 style) and a real secondary recoil lug on the barrel, and discard the recoil plate.

Then you can repair the cracked stock and it won't continue to crack.

I won't buy another RSM until they come out with Generation IV without a detachable recoil plate as the only recoil stop on the entire rifle!

When you get to .458 Lott recoil levels you need a primary recoil lug on the action and functional cross bolts both fore and aft of the magazine well, whether visible or hidden. A second lug on the barrel is also a good idea.

You might get by with the recoil plate if you install a second cross bolt aft of the magazine box, and make sure the cross bolt fore of the box is actually doing something. There is no recoil lug there for it to be backing up, all it does is keep some compression on the wood to prevent the magazine well from cracking open along the long axis of the stock.

I wouldn't waste a lot of money on a new stock unless I fundamentally changed the bedding and reinforcements of the RSM.

Thank you RIP

I would agree with you 100% on the recoil plate issue. I did not like it from the first time I saw it. I am not familure with all the posible modifications that are avalible to improve the rifle. I appriciate the information on the improvments. Do you know of a reputable gunsmith that is famiure with these type of modifications. I would be very interested in cusomizing the rifle.

I like the look of the RSM rifles with the 1/4 rib, the barrle band, and the banded front sight.

Semper Fi
Will

I think jeffeosso could do it as well as anyone. After he fixes it up and repairs the current stock, you can decide on whether you really want to do a fancier wood stock.

hey.. wait a minute... turnign stock sure... heck, even finishing mine.. but I can't figure out how to charge for 47 gray hairs for doing someone else's!!!

Go find a smith that beds VERY well...

put in dual crossbolts, ebony covered, and a 3/8" pin down the wrist

the same smith can dovetail and solder a barrel recoil lug... easy money, as you can just put this right on the existing under rib

bed the whole shooting match...

releave the rear tang

and it should sin no more forever

jeffe

Jeffe,
What about a Remington M700 style recoil lug for the action? If you do the barrel lug alone, you are no better off than with the recoil plate alone.

I agree with you on everything else, except the gray hairs.

Do a rear pillar too and then pour in or machine some kind of 45 degree front pillar too.

Come on Jeffe, you can do it!

Ron,
if you cut a dovetail in the underrib, and drop a 1/2 deep or so block of that, it accomplishs the same thing as a rem-lug, without any hassles... it's at MOST an hour, to cut the block, dovetail the block, dovetail the barrel, solver or touch it with a tig on the sides and cool it...

probably take nearly as long to cut the stock to take it...

just like the lugs on my 45caliber+ rifles.

i don't think it needs a tiedown screw, a'la CZ

O.K., two lugs on the barrel: primary next to the action and secondary where the recoil plate dipped into the forearm originally.

That would certainly be easier than machining off some of the quarter rib to allow the Remington-style lug to be fitted over barrel threads and soldered to the action.

More cosmetic. gets rid of the recoil plate and gives two recoil lugs instead of one.

I like the ideas that are flowing here! I will explor these more. I wil not be using the old stock. I will try to post a photo later so you can see why. I bed the gun my self and I think by beding the rear tang as well as the front of the action, actualy made the crack worse. The recoil plate is basicly one with the stock after I bed it. I bed it in three stages. to try to get every thing to fit nice and tight. It did seam to fit very well and was tight to get the action out of the stock. It did shoot slightly better groups after the bed job!!

Thank you for the suggestions.

Will
Semper Fi

Will: what is Ruger's response to their POS bedding and cross bolt issues..? Seems to me they should be responsible for restodking your gun under the circumstances.

How does the recoil plate works? How tight the two small screws that holds the plate into the forearm go?

I am fairly sure that once I bed the stock my self that all warrenty is off. I have not asked them yet and probably will not.

I really like the look of the Ruger Safari Magnum rifles and It shoots great. I can use this as a project to build a semi-custom gun and have some fun doing it.

A number of people have mentioned cracking in the RSM stocks. The thing is not bed at all new from Ruger. They fit it to the stock but there is zero bedding and the action just droped out of the stock with no resistance.

I belive the standard torque for the stock screws is around 70in/lbs.

The recoil plate actualy provides very little bearing surface compaired to some rifles. So I will explore some of the ideas fielded by RIP and Jeffeosso. I am definatly targeting the ellimination of the recoil plate.

I am still fishing for any Idea as to Gunsmiths/Stock makers that any one here knows would be a good contact on this.

Thanks and Semper Fi

Will

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Originally posted by 458Lottfan:
I am fairly sure that once I bed the stock my self that all warrenty is off. I have not asked them yet and probably will not.

I really like the look of the Ruger Safari Magnum rifles and It shoots great. I can use this as a project to build a semi-custom gun and have some fun doing it.

A number of people have mentioned cracking in the RSM stocks. The thing is not bed at all new from Ruger. They fit it to the stock but there is zero bedding and the action just droped out of the stock with no resistance.

I belive the standard torque for the stock screws is around 70in/lbs.

The recoil plate actualy provides very little bearing surface compaired to some rifles. So I will explore some of the ideas fielded by RIP and Jeffeosso. I am definatly targeting the ellimination of the recoil plate.

I am still fishing for any Idea as to Gunsmiths/Stock makers that any one here knows would be a good contact on this.

Thanks and Semper Fi

Will

Have you talked to Rod or Larry at Serengeti Rifles and stocks. They should be able to make you a custom fitted stock and do anything else you want with your rifle in a variety of stock patterns and woods. www.serengetirifles.com should get you a phone # and plenty to read. They take 6 to 8 months to build a rifle from scratch so it should take less time just to stock a rifle but you may want to look at some of their other services.