OK,I am on a new Big Bore"kick"now(pun intended ) with a 12ga Slug? Heck,they are around .72 caliber,weigh upwards to 700 grains and now are made of lead,hardened lead mix,copper,sabots,etc! ...I just ordered a 24" Rifled Barrel for my HK/Benelli SBE which shoots 3 1/2" as fast as you can pull 8-9 shots,only weighs 8pds,NEVER jams,will have sights and QD scope,weatherproof and the whole damn pkge cost less than a good German Scope!(plus I can still take Ducks with it )The Whitefield 3.5" slugs hit with .72cal/600 grains and 4900 ft pds!....Sheet,I may have to go get a Brownie with this thing!.....So guys,what have you taken with your slugs (slug guns)and what kind of weapon,slugs and what happened upon ImpacT

craig boddington mentions someone (i forget if it was him or a friend) killing a cape buff with a 12ga slug .. in safari rifles, i think

Great topic: While with Berkeley PD (CA) we ran some tests with 38 spec, 45 auto (in a Thompson) and 12 ga. slugs...I'd take the 12 ga slugs any day...will go thru the trunk lid, back seat, front seat (with puke sitting there) and out to the engine compartment.

Ross Seyfried has written some good articles on 12 bore slugs in old Rifle and Handloader magazines. Of course, he would sniff at your Benelli.

SafariKid-You really NEED a 12gaFH. Be the first to take a cape Buff with a $298 NEF assuming I dont do it first!-Rob

George Hoffman killed cape buff with 12ga Slugs.

I have killed a deer and a pig with a 12ga slug and my wife also killed a pig with a 12ga slug.

On all 3 occasions the animals were hit right behind the shoulder [as not to mess up too much meat]. All 3 animals ran after the shot. The deer about 50 yards, the pigs both ran about 80 yards.

Complete penetration in all cases, US factory ammo with foster slugs were used.

I will try some Brennekes next time, probably in 20ga as I use my Blaser Combo guns quite a bit, and when conditions are right I am going to shoot a deer or a pig.

I am going to try some buckshot too.

Kid, the Lightfield slugs are great, and very accurate out of the 928 slugger with the 24" rifled barreled. Those 3 1/2" slugs are thumpers. I think you need two of them with 8" barrels in a dual shoulder rig. That would suit you well!

The great shotgun writer Bob Brister reportedly took a Cape Buff with a 12 ga Brenneke Slug.

NE 450...CAPE WITH 12 SLUGS! THATS NOT SO GOOD?!

ROB....YOU FIRST!

BIG DOGGY....GREAT,I WILL CALL JACK FOR A PAIR OF THOSE,SHOULD BE "NEATO" TO SAY THE LEAST

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Originally posted by Romag:
The great shotgun writer Bob Brister reportedly took a Cape Buff with a 12 ga Brenneke Slug.

WISH I COULD FIND THAT STORY ...But,I wouldnt do that and they dont allow auto's anyway...maybe a Bison?Hmmmm

I've dropped a lot of 250-300 pound Wild hogs in their tracks with 16 ga Brenneke slugs in My H.Barella Cape gun! I wouldn't be opposed to the popping of anything Excluding Brown bear, up to and including Moose in North America with that combination.

Others may do as it suits them, but I can assure you, however, you will not find me shooting a Cape Buffalo, or brown bear with a slug unless I have absolutely no other choice, and I do have other choices!

In Africa the double barrel 20ga, 16ga, 12 ga With Brenneke slugs would make a good follow-up for Leopard, but I'd be reluctant to do the same with a Lion. For that I'd like a good double rifle thank you!

Kid, I have one of the Ithaca 37s with a 26" barrel...a 10ga blank bored to 12ga, so it's like a bull barrel-slug gun., It shoots the Winchester Supremes into 1 3/8" at 100 yards. I took a 9-point at 212 yards with it a year or so ago. Also took a great 8-point in Pike County with a hard quartering away shot that entered the flank and came out the front shoulder..DRT.

I have been using a 12G for years as my DG/LG firearm. In fact due to the firearm laws I have to live under its the easiest way to get around the issue. I have droped every type of large game we have in Australia with my trusty 12g, from Croc to Buff. A good 70%+ were DOTS.

With the outstanding R&D and help from Rob an Ed the 12G will now truly come into its rightful place as a Large Bore DG firearm, something I always knew it was good at, not by design, but by circumstances.

Large game shot with my 12g over the years.
Buff
Scrub Bull
Horse
Donkey
Camel
Croc

Medium game....
Feral Pig
Goat
Roo
Dingo
Wild Dog
Fox

All shot with Slugs from foster type to sabot's.

PS: Ohh plus the odd shark or two (on the gaff)

I have seen a couple young water buff taken with 12 sabots. I don't recall what brand but they were of the wasp waist variety. Not too aweful impressive but they did seem to get the job done. As I recall one heifer took two and the other heifer took three slugs all chest shots. These were small too, like 800 lbs. As I recall at least some of the slugs made it to the offside lungs, but the internal damage was pretty much limited to the onside. Since the young cows had hides only about 1/4" thick I would be quite concerned about penetration on an old bull with 1" of hide and the nasty "silver skin" underneath.

Safarikid

That should read "12ga" Slugs.

It did not take him 12 shots to kill the buff.

404, based on some of the Buff I've seen, 12 shots with a 12ga may not be out of the realm of possibility!!!

To be blunt( pun intended), a 1000gr Brass or copper Darwin Slug at 1750fps is a pretty formidable load( about 7K ft-lbs). My double rifle ( when I finally get it done) should be quite capable of dealing with Cape Buff. Same bullet can be used in 3" plastic hulls.-Rob

Although this may be inappropriate, on the nitroexpress forum there is a subforum on paradox and bore guns. Lots of info on the use and loading for 12ga slugs and round balls.
A friend and I have been working on our "poor man's double rifles" in 12ga, putting on rifle sights, etc. These are to be used as close range hog, black bear, and deer rifles.

In my opion you use slugs when you don't have a rifle to shoot the aminal. Witch is ok. More power to you!!

John Wooters once wrote of killing a Cape Buffalo using slugs out of an over under shotgun. The article was in Guns and Ammo many years ago

I know while in RVN back in the late 60's the French FL I hung out with used the 16ga Berk's on the wild cattle there,they always swore the steel wood screw in the back helped drive it through. And I know of one small Tiger killed with the barbell looking type of slug the French used

It might be heresy to say this, but in truth, outside of buying ammo, there is nothing you can do with a .458 Lott you cant do with a 12GaFH. However, there are things you can do with a 12GaFH you can't do with a Lott.-Rob