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What advantage does a bolt rifle with a quarter rib have over one with out a quarter rib? I have been looking over the price lists of some custom gun makers. A rear site with quarter rib can be a pretty expensive option, relative to a island rear site. Is a quarter rib worth the bucks?? Thanks!!! Go Duke!! | ||
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a quarter rib provides 25% of the benefits of a full rib, but at 1/4th of the cost and weight. | |||
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Matter of taste. It is merely for looks. | |||
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I think they look really cool,....just not $1,000 worth of cool. Go Duke!! | |||
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The quarter rib is designed as a flat platform structure for multiple leaf sights prior to optic advancement. It may have an indirect benefit of acting as a "barrel stiffner" and adding some weight. The quarter rib is synomonus with classic African rifles and is unique in its beauty. The "add-on" quarter rib is expensive, but the integral quarter rib like the one the Ruger RSM sports is very, very expensive. Yes, the quarter rib is worth the bucks. The Ruger RSM is the best factory buy on the planet. | |||
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Texas Blue Devil, It takes a considerable amount of time to properly fit a 1/4 rib to a barrel, hence the cost. The gunsmith has to eat you know. | |||
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I think the idea is similar to that of a full length rib on a shotgun, to provide a quick guide for the eye to aid in rapid aiming or snap shooting. You look at the target over the rib, and the sights just happen to be in the way and pretty much aligned already. DRSS "If we're not supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat?" "PS. To add a bit of Pappasonian philosophy: this single barrel stuff is just a passing fad. Bolt actions and single shots will fade away as did disco, the hula hoop, and bell-bottomed pants. Doubles will rule the world!" | |||
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Yah - it looks cool. I think it's worth what it costs in cool alone. Pancho LTC, USA, RET "Participating in a gun buy-back program because you think that criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids." Clint Eastwood Give me Liberty or give me Corona. | |||
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ABSOLUTELY!!!!!! | |||
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Originally its was done to add weight but to add weight with class, today it serves no purpose but it looks cool, island sights can have just as many leaves, It does not stiffen the barrel unless intregal and even then what would that do for anything a little more stiff because of a 1/4 rib will do nothing you could see on paper or anywhere. I install custom sights for $600 this includes a custom built 1/4 rib one blade, swivel stud, and banded front sight. for $600 customer provides ammo to sight in, plus bluing if needed. I think this is the best deal for the quality, and think island sights just look cheap the only one I like is the island banded sight. | |||
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A lot of the classic old Mausers have receiver crests or Mauser banners that it would be crime to drill and tap through. Among other things, the quarter rib allows you to still use a scope by mounting the front ring on the rib and attaching to the objective housing. I just cannot see drilling and tapping a Persian Mauser crest, or a Chilean or Brazilian, or a Standard Modell with a Mauser banner. Mike | |||
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Remember that you want your big bore to be heavy enough and you want the weight between your hands. Quarter ribs work great for adding weight. | |||
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BIJOUCREEK; Mike Cuypers - save your cheap sales pitch for your chapter board of directors don't bring it here with you 39 shitty posts. If you want to sell something there is a different forum for you. | |||
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There are those that do, those that dream, and those that only read about it and then post their "expertise" on AR! | |||
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Its not a sales pitch someone mentioned thousands for a 1/4 rib they dont need to cost that much, I could care less if you send it to me or the next guy, Texas blue devil asked if it was worth the big bucks It doesnt have to cost big bucks and there are plenty of gunsmiths that will do it for the price i listed pick any of them. Buliwyf do you have a cheap island base on your guns? or do you have another problem with me save your ZEN BIG BORE MASTER OF BIG BORES and dont threaten me with your 2000 posts, oooh big deal that must mean you know so much more than the next guy on here because you type on your computer. | |||
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Who pissed in your Cheerios?!!! | |||
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Buliwyf, You should apologize to Mike, that was uncalled for! Double Rifle Shooters Society | |||
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I like a quarter rib because it gives a long straight platform to align the sights with the rest of the rifle. | |||
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mississippian: Buliwyf, You should apologize to Mike, that was uncalled for![/QUOTE +1 JD] DRSS 9.3X74 tika 512 9.3X74 SXS Merkel 140 in 470 Nitro | |||
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If their not installed correctly I they have the advantage of moving your point of impact in relation to your sights as the rib and barrel heat up and move out of sync with each other like on the Ruger #1's. You will need high rings so the objective bell on the scope will clear the rear sight or you will need to use a folding rear sight. I always though the folding rears looked bad. | |||
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ribs are uber cool, but I'll disagree that island sights don't look good. I think the pre-64 win safari sights not only looked cool but were awesome practical with their knob adjustable elevation setup. Red | |||
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Not so if the quarter rib is relieved to accomodate the objective bell. One could argue that on a rifle that ought to have a quarter rib, a straight scope without an objective bell is the right choice anyway - and certainly that is more true today with the Swaro Z6 1x6x30mm. But the quarter ribs looked good milled to fit an S&B 1.5x6x42! I agree that banded rear sights look almost as good as a quarter rib. I think island rear sights that aren't banded look "stuck on" and fragile on a large rifle, even if they aren't. JPK Free 500grains | |||
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I find it helps put even weight, right over my left hand(that is holding the rifle in the forearm area), when shooting offhand. | |||
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They are to show everyone that sees it the craftsmanship of the gunmaker. (before CNC machines). | |||
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I agree with the factory win 70 island sights are nice, I was talking more about a custom built rifle why install island, take a little time and do the 1/4 rib its better for the gunmaker and the customer. Here are some 1/4 ribs that work with straight tubes or large diameter objectives No cnc here just old fashioned bridgport 1/8 rib for a guy who wanted a schmidt and bender 5-20x50mm schmidt and bender 1-6x khales 42mm There are so many things you can do with 1/4 ribs I think its worth it sorry for the cheap sales pitch if anyone is offended | |||
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Yeah, but not $1000 worth. You can buy a very nice 1/4rib from Dakota. Final fit & finish is pretty straight forward. Mine was done for about $300. Primary purpose is to add some weight forward, place to mount a rear sight & just looks right. The one shown could have been milled for a larger obj. but why would anyone want to put all that time & money into a nice 1/4 ribbed, calssic African rifle & then muck it up w/ a 50mm obj scope? LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT! | |||
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I own 3 Bijou Creek rifles and nothing cheap about them. All very nice in my book. Why such a harsh attitude towards Mike. I agree with Miss. totally uncalled for. Mike, no need to apologize, most of us enjoy discussion and opinions from others.I pm'd you the other day, did you get it? | |||
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"That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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+1 465H&H | |||
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Ribs on Rifles? If any of you play golf you know the best way to tell if a "club" is right for you is to hit some "balls" with it. Get a rifle with a rib in your hands and see if a rib is right for you. There is talking and doing---! There is to much talking here and that is about all. And if you want one buy one. Michael Greene | |||
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Mike some participants appreciate information relating to costs…Thanks. Other’s can be pricks…just ignore the pricks. Jim "Life's hard; it's harder if you're stupid" John Wayne | |||
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best reason...chicks dig em Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Quarter ribbed for her pleasure… ______________________ Sometimes there is no spring... Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm... | |||
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I have heard a 1/4 rib makes the bullets go faster. If you also stick a couple of stickers on your gun, it also speeds up the bullets. Hell, it works on cars. Doesn't it? Mink and Wall Tents don't go together. Especially when you are sleeping in the Wall Tent. DRSS .470 & .500 | |||
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BULIWYF, This above post seems out of left field. You either can give reasons that make it a justified "bashing" of BIJOUCREEK or you look like a fool. So, either elaborate, apologize and retract your words, or continue to prance about in your court jesters costume. It's in your hands. Jack OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.} | |||
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$1000 for a quarter rib or $1000 worth of ammo components.......no contest, buy the ammo. | |||
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Obviously I'm in the minority, but I don't like the look of them. I think the rifle looks cleaner without a quarter rib. Chuck Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Ok, now I will put myself out here for public scrutiny, but what is a quarter rib, I'm not a gun expert, and are looking at the pics, and can't seem to figure out what this topic is talking about, could someone post some pics, showing specifically what a .25, .5 rib are?? thanks | |||
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This is an example of the many reasons why you do not understand why most hunters prefer to use their own rifles, and bother taking them, and a spare, to hunt with. JPK Free 500grains | |||
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JPK, thank you for not answering my question, but taking the time to insult me! For your info, I shoot a merkel, so I understand what it is like to own a nice firearm, and enjoying hunting with it. I just don't understand lugging tons of extra guns for the "in case" shit happens. BUT again, thanks for the insult, I don't make guns, put them together, I just buy them. Now, I'm sure if you want to be a cocky expert, I could lead a discussion about genetics that would leave you scratching your head, thinking, I'M NOT AS SMART AS I THOUGHT! We all have things we are knowledgable about, obviously, Manners are not your strong point! | |||
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