The Accurate Reloading Forums
Dumb Question...What advantage does a Quarter Rib provide?
16 August 2009, 09:58
Texas Blue DevilDumb Question...What advantage does a Quarter Rib provide?
What advantage does a bolt rifle with a quarter rib have over one with out a quarter rib?
I have been looking over the price lists of some custom gun makers. A rear site with quarter rib can be a pretty expensive option, relative to a island rear site.
Is a quarter rib worth the bucks??
Thanks!!!
Go Duke!!
16 August 2009, 10:34
delloroa quarter rib provides 25% of the benefits of a full rib, but at 1/4th of the cost and weight.
16 August 2009, 10:36
ScottSMatter of taste. It is merely for looks.
16 August 2009, 10:52
Texas Blue Devilquote:
Matter of taste. It is merely for looks.
I think they look really cool,....just not $1,000 worth of cool.
Go Duke!!
16 August 2009, 18:11
BuliwyfThe quarter rib is designed as a flat platform structure for multiple leaf sights prior to optic advancement. It may have an indirect benefit of acting as a "barrel stiffner" and adding some weight. The quarter rib is synomonus with classic African rifles and is unique in its beauty. The "add-on" quarter rib is expensive, but the integral quarter rib like the one the Ruger RSM sports is very, very expensive.
Yes, the quarter rib is worth the bucks. The Ruger RSM is the best factory buy on the planet.
16 August 2009, 18:20
ScottSTexas Blue Devil,
It takes a considerable amount of time to properly fit a 1/4 rib to a barrel, hence the cost. The gunsmith has to eat you know.
16 August 2009, 18:20
Omnivorous_BobI think the idea is similar to that of a full length rib on a shotgun, to provide a quick guide for the eye to aid in rapid aiming or snap shooting. You look at the target over the rib, and the sights just happen to be in the way and pretty much aligned already.
DRSS
"If we're not supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat?"
"PS. To add a bit of Pappasonian philosophy: this single barrel stuff is just a passing fad. Bolt actions and single shots will fade away as did disco, the hula hoop, and bell-bottomed pants. Doubles will rule the world!"
16 August 2009, 21:22
PanchoYah - it looks cool. I think it's worth what it costs in cool alone.
Pancho
LTC, USA, RET
"Participating in a gun buy-back program because you think that criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids." Clint Eastwood
Give me Liberty or give me Corona.
16 August 2009, 23:33
7kongoniABSOLUTELY!!!!!!
17 August 2009, 01:00
BIJOUCREEKOriginally its was done to add weight but to add weight with class, today it serves no purpose but it looks cool, island sights can have just as many leaves, It does not stiffen the barrel unless intregal and even then what would that do for anything a little more stiff because of a 1/4 rib will do nothing you could see on paper or anywhere.
I install custom sights for $600 this includes a custom built 1/4 rib one blade, swivel stud, and banded front sight. for $600 customer provides ammo to sight in, plus bluing if needed. I think this is the best deal for the quality, and think island sights just look cheap the only one I like is the island banded sight.
17 August 2009, 05:04
MJinesA lot of the classic old Mausers have receiver crests or Mauser banners that it would be crime to drill and tap through. Among other things, the quarter rib allows you to still use a scope by mounting the front ring on the rib and attaching to the objective housing. I just cannot see drilling and tapping a Persian Mauser crest, or a Chilean or Brazilian, or a Standard Modell with a Mauser banner.
Mike
17 August 2009, 05:46
GeoffM24Remember that you want your big bore to be heavy enough and you want the weight between your hands. Quarter ribs work great for adding weight.
17 August 2009, 06:21
BuliwyfBIJOUCREEK; Mike Cuypers - save your cheap sales pitch for your chapter board of directors don't bring it here with you 39 shitty posts.
If you want to sell something there is a different forum for you.
quote:
Originally posted by Buliwyf:
BIJOUCREEK; Mike Cuypers - save your cheap sales pitch for your chapter board of directors don't bring it here with you 39 shitty posts.
If you want to sell something there is a different forum for you.
There are those that do, those that dream, and those that only read about it and then post their "expertise" on AR!
17 August 2009, 07:35
BIJOUCREEKquote:
Originally posted by Buliwyf:
BIJOUCREEK; Mike Cuypers - save your cheap sales pitch for your chapter board of directors don't bring it here with you 39 shitty posts.
If you want to sell something there is a different forum for you.
Its not a sales pitch someone mentioned thousands for a 1/4 rib they dont need to cost that much, I could care less if you send it to me or the next guy, Texas blue devil asked if it was worth the big bucks It doesnt have to cost big bucks and there are plenty of gunsmiths that will do it for the price i listed pick any of them.
Buliwyf do you have a cheap island base on your guns? or do you have another problem with me save your ZEN BIG BORE MASTER OF BIG BORES and dont threaten me with your 2000 posts, oooh big deal that must mean you know so much more than the next guy on here because you type on your computer.
17 August 2009, 10:25
K20350quote:
Originally posted by Buliwyf:
BIJOUCREEK; Mike Cuypers - save your cheap sales pitch for your chapter board of directors don't bring it here with you 39 shitty posts.
If you want to sell something there is a different forum for you.
Who pissed in your Cheerios?!!!
17 August 2009, 17:36
MississippianBuliwyf,
You should apologize to Mike, that was uncalled for!
Double Rifle Shooters Society
17 August 2009, 18:36
shootawayI like a quarter rib because it gives a long straight platform to align the sights with the rest of the rifle.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mississippian:
Buliwyf,
You should apologize to Mike, that was uncalled for![/QUOTE
+1
JD]
DRSS
9.3X74 tika 512
9.3X74 SXS
Merkel 140 in 470 Nitro
17 August 2009, 20:17
greenjoyIf their not installed correctly I they have the advantage of moving your point of impact in relation to your sights as the rib and barrel heat up and move out of sync with each other like on the Ruger #1's.
You will need high rings so the objective bell on the scope will clear the rear sight or you will need to use a folding rear sight.
I always though the folding rears looked bad.
17 August 2009, 22:11
Dago Redribs are uber cool, but I'll disagree that island sights don't look good. I think the pre-64 win safari sights not only looked cool but were awesome practical with their knob adjustable elevation setup.
Red
quote:
Originally posted by greenjoy:
You will need high rings so the objective bell on the scope will clear the rear sight or you will need to use a folding rear sight.
I always though the folding rears looked bad.
Not so if the quarter rib is relieved to accomodate the objective bell.
One could argue that on a rifle that ought to have a quarter rib, a straight scope without an objective bell is the right choice anyway - and certainly that is more true today with the Swaro Z6 1x6x30mm.
But the quarter ribs looked good milled to fit an S&B 1.5x6x42!
I agree that banded rear sights look almost as good as a quarter rib. I think island rear sights that aren't banded look "stuck on" and fragile on a large rifle, even if they aren't.
JPK
Free 500grains
17 August 2009, 23:41
shootawayI find it helps put even weight, right over my left hand(that is holding the rifle in the forearm area), when shooting offhand.
18 August 2009, 06:45
Magnum Hunter1They are to show everyone that sees it the craftsmanship of the gunmaker. (before CNC machines).
18 August 2009, 08:47
BIJOUCREEKI agree with the factory win 70 island sights are nice, I was talking more about a custom built rifle why install island, take a little time and do the 1/4 rib its better for the gunmaker and the customer.
Here are some 1/4 ribs that work with straight tubes or large diameter objectives
No cnc here just old fashioned bridgport
1/8 rib for a guy who wanted a schmidt and bender 5-20x50mm
schmidt and bender 1-6x
khales 42mm
There are so many things you can do with 1/4 ribs I think its worth it
sorry for the cheap sales pitch if anyone is offended
18 August 2009, 09:25
fredj338quote:
Originally posted by ScottS:
Texas Blue Devil,
It takes a considerable amount of time to properly fit a 1/4 rib to a barrel, hence the cost. The gunsmith has to eat you know.
Yeah, but not $1000 worth. You can buy a very nice 1/4rib from Dakota. Final fit & finish is pretty straight forward. Mine was done for about $300.
Primary purpose is to add some weight forward, place to mount a rear sight & just looks right.
The one shown could have been milled for a larger obj. but why would anyone want to put all that time & money into a nice 1/4 ribbed, calssic African rifle & then muck it up w/ a 50mm obj scope?
LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT!
19 August 2009, 05:32
bigdoggy700I own 3 Bijou Creek rifles and nothing cheap about them. All very nice in my book. Why such a harsh attitude towards Mike. I agree with Miss. totally uncalled for. Mike, no need to apologize, most of us enjoy discussion and opinions from others.I pm'd you the other day, did you get it?
19 August 2009, 19:24
SAFARIKIDquote:
Originally posted by SAFARIKID:
quote:
Originally posted by Buliwyf:
BIJOUCREEK; Mike Cuypers - save your cheap sales pitch for your chapter board of directors don't bring it here with you 39 shitty posts.
If you want to sell something there is a different forum for you.
Hey MORON! Why dont you crawl back under your rock...I guess since I "Outrank" your mere 2077 crappy post,I can say that annd also hit the BOZO alarm !What's the matter,the ole lady cut you off-again!WTF is wrong with you?!The man was merely answering a fellow members question and you dog him for it?!You must be one of those Dems way on the Left calling people who speak up at town hall meetings a Mob or Nazi?!
And by the way,since you are so high and mighty,why dont YOU show all us your work,since you seem to be so f..kn all knowing,hell,you got over 2000 post,so that now ranks you up there with Pelosi!
Last,Mike is a good dude who does excellent work and has done a "bunch" of rifles and gunsmith work for me,so I do know what I am taking about.The man was merely trying to be helpful and you want to throw him under the bus??!
Now,go back to your cartoons.
"That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" !
19 August 2009, 19:47
465H&Hquote:
Originally posted by Mississippian:
Buliwyf,
You should apologize to Mike, that was uncalled for!
+1
465H&H
03 April 2010, 20:43
Michael_GreeneRibs on Rifles?
If any of you play golf you know the best way to tell if a "club" is right for you is to hit some "balls" with it.
Get a rifle with a rib in your hands and see if a rib is right for you.
There is talking and doing---!
There is to much talking here and that is about all.
And if you want one buy one.
Michael Greene
03 April 2010, 23:49
capowardquote:
Originally posted by Riflebuilders.com:
Ribs on Rifles?
If any of you play golf you know the best way to tell if a "club" is right for you is to hit some "balls" with it.
Get a rifle with a rib in your hands and see if a rib is right for you.
There is talking and doing---!
There is to much talking here and that is about all.
And if you want one buy one.
quote:
Originally posted by BIJOUCREEK:
Originally its was done to add weight but to add weight with class, today it serves no purpose but it looks cool, island sights can have just as many leaves, It does not stiffen the barrel unless intregal and even then what would that do for anything a little more stiff because of a 1/4 rib will do nothing you could see on paper or anywhere.
I install custom sights for $600 this includes a custom built 1/4 rib one blade, swivel stud, and banded front sight. for $600 customer provides ammo to sight in, plus bluing if needed. I think this is the best deal for the quality, and think island sights just look cheap the only one I like is the island banded sight.
Mike some participants appreciate information relating to costs…Thanks. Other’s can be pricks…just ignore the pricks.
Jim
"Life's hard; it's harder if you're stupid"
John Wayne 04 April 2010, 20:59
Mike_Dettorrebest reason...chicks dig em
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.
What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
06 April 2010, 00:00
trophyhunter5000quote:
best reason...chicks dig em
Quarter ribbed for her pleasure…
______________________
Sometimes there is no spring...
Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm...
06 April 2010, 06:55
sierrabravo45I have heard a 1/4 rib makes the bullets go faster. If you also stick a couple of stickers on your gun, it also speeds up the bullets.
Hell, it works on cars. Doesn't it?
Mink and Wall Tents don't go together. Especially when you are sleeping in the Wall Tent.
DRSS .470 & .500
06 April 2010, 20:03
BigFiveJackquote:
Originally posted by Buliwyf:
BIJOUCREEK; Mike Cuypers - save your cheap sales pitch for your chapter
board of directors don't bring it here with you 39 shitty posts.
If you want to sell something there is a different forum for you.
BULIWYF,
This above post seems out of left field. You either can give reasons that
make it a justified "bashing" of BIJOUCREEK or you look like a fool. So,
either elaborate, apologize and retract your words, or continue to prance
about in your court jesters costume. It's in your hands.
Jack
OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.}
07 April 2010, 14:20
tendrams$1000 for a quarter rib or $1000 worth of ammo components.......no contest, buy the ammo.
07 April 2010, 18:13
chuck375Obviously I'm in the minority, but I don't like the look of them. I think the rifle looks cleaner without a quarter rib.
Chuck
Regards,
Chuck
"There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit"
Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness"
07 April 2010, 22:42
Oryxhunter1983Ok, now I will put myself out here for public scrutiny, but what is a quarter rib, I'm not a gun expert, and are looking at the pics, and can't seem to figure out what this topic is talking about, could someone post some pics, showing specifically what a .25, .5 rib are?? thanks
quote:
Originally posted by Oryxhunter1983:
Ok, now I will put myself out here for public scrutiny, but what is a quarter rib, I'm not a gun expert, and are looking at the pics, and can't seem to figure out what this topic is talking about, could someone post some pics, showing specifically what a .25, .5 rib are?? thanks
This is an example of the many reasons why you do not understand why most hunters prefer to use their own rifles, and bother taking them, and a spare, to hunt with.
JPK
Free 500grains
08 April 2010, 00:17
Oryxhunter1983JPK,
thank you for not answering my question, but taking the time to insult me!
For your info, I shoot a merkel, so I understand what it is like to own a nice firearm, and enjoying hunting with it. I just don't understand lugging tons of extra guns for the "in case" shit happens. BUT again, thanks for the insult, I don't make guns, put them together, I just buy them.
Now, I'm sure if you want to be a cocky expert, I could lead a discussion about genetics that would leave you scratching your head, thinking,
I'M NOT AS SMART AS I THOUGHT! 
We all have things we are knowledgable about, obviously, Manners are not your strong point!