Anyone here do an AccRel build lately? Which of Jeffe's cartridges did you choose, and what action did you build on? I'm getting the itch again, but as usual, am looking at things from a budgetary standpoint. I'm sort of leaning toward a .500, or at least the .470. I am not among the recoil-proof crowd here, but figure I can load up and down as my fancy (and shoulder) dictate. Better to have too much caliber than not enough, I am thinking.

Im in the process of planning a 500AR build on my Mauser 98 action...

Playing Pm tag with Jeff and sorting out a few things. but I should be under way before long...

As for price, I have added up alot of things I want on my rifle and im looking at around $1200 to the Gunsmith at a minimum. Will probably end up spending more for some nicer things I would like on the rifle.

Brando: Kewl beans! Please keep us all informed. Which 98 action do you have? If I could have my choice, I would probably use a Czech VZ-24, but they aren't as affordable as they used to be. What kind of safety are you going for? Whose barrel and stock?

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Brando: Kewl beans! Please keep us all informed. Which 98 action do you have? If I could have my choice, I would probably use a Czech VZ-24, but they aren't as affordable as they used to be. What kind of safety are you going for? Whose barrel and stock?

I got a VZ24 action chambered in 300 mag off Gunbroker. I think I eneded up paying about $250ish and got it to my front door. A bonus I got was that the action had already had some work done, the bolt had already been bent over for a scope and has some hole drilled and ready for a scope mount.

McGowen barrel more than likely, and I havent decided on a stock yet, But I really like Laminated wood so it will probably be my baby.

Bill,
The 40x are easier on the budget than the 500 ... you can have a ruger rebarreled, bedded, blued, and are ready to go fairly cheaply .. get a 7 or 300 mag!

The 500 will require more gunsmithing to get it right. Have to open the boltface, do more feeding work, etc

The 470 is REALLY cool, as you can use 400gr speer gold dots, and go REALLY too fast, and they hold together well.. those are a plated, not bonded, bullet, .035" thick! GREAT bullet

Jeffe: I defer to your judgment. I'll start looking for a Ruger to rebarrel. Any favorite choices for barrels? I'd be doing the .470.

McGowen or Pacnor -- McGowen can do all the work for you

I can send the reamers whenever you want

I like the CZ heavy profile, with the CZ sight base and recoil lug, recessed crown, etc ...

Jeff, I think I will be sending them my action around the beginning of summer. Also you expect to hear from me at the beginning of the month to order 20 headstamped brass and a set of 500 AR dies.

I figure if I send McGowen my action around the beginning of summer that will give him more then enough time to do everything I want, get the feed done right and reblue my action and everything by December.

take my advice... send "now" .. and it might be ready by then!!! These things always take longer than planned

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
take my advice... send "now" .. and it might be ready by then!!! These things always take longer than planned

Thats fine if it takes longer. But do you really think it would take from now till December to complete the rifle?

if a gunsmith tells me 3-6 months, i what HEAR is 3-6 months longer than the 3-6 months they say ... it might be done by summer ... or fall .. but if you want it before decemeber, I would have it there in march/april

my 458AR is in the planning stage. have a MKII 7mag. a .458 1.75 blank Montana barrel ordered. will turn and mill a cz style rear site base,recoil lug ,banded sling swivel and front site ramp. the stock at this time will be the factory with mods(cross bolts,bedding limbsaver pad refinished)i don,t care for the looks of cross bolts but i think i will learn to luv then. the project will be a learning curve but a fun one. at this time i am working on the plans for contouring the barrel. as $$ come up will order the dies and brass and a boolit mould just for fun! having fun Clint

Speaking of the CZ, have any of you considered the 500 on the Safari model?
I think I like the idea of a heavier rifle for the build.
Frank

McGowen had a very fast turn around for me, they did everything except front sight, blueing and stock work. Was about two months. Mine is currently out being finished and will have some completed pics up when he is done, which reminds that I need to check with him see if he needs anything from me yet . This one is done on the CZ 550 magnum which started life as a .416 Rigby making it a snap into a .500 AccRel. I'm very excited about this one as I wanted a bigbore thumper in this class to go bowling for hogs with. The only reason mine was not finished by now is that I sat on it here at the house for about six or seven months before getting some help with it, my fault. By the way, this one feeds flawlessly and has an excellent cool factor.
Rodney.

I just had my dealer friend order a Rem 798 in 458 win. I will play with it for a while then rechamber to 458AR. I already have the RUM brass. I will be in it fewer $ than starting with just an action. Anybody have 458 win dies to sell?

Had time today to do some math looks like my build will be 10 to 10.25 lbs scope and all. the barrel will be a POcnor #5 contour with the rear site base,front recoil lug, banded swivel stud and front ramp machined from the blank. any feedback will be used before i start cutting this out Thanks Clint

Im not too sure on the weight my build will be...But im looking forward to it!

Gents

I have both the 458 and 500 AccRel.

I built the 458 First and while I'm happy with the rifle, If I built it again I'd build it lighter. Infact it's about due to be reprofiled and fluted

My 500 AccRel is lighter than my 458 it's a lot easier to carry.

What will impress you is considering how much power the 458 generates it's pretty easily managed.

Don't make the mistake I did and make it too heavy. A number 5 profile max

The cheapest option by far is buy a 798 or Zastava in 458 Win and get it rechambered. Guys these things come with open sights, all finished and fitted up. It would only need a rechambering, a recoil lug and maybe some light feed work and it would be done

Better than Lott performance in a standard action.

regards
S&F

Joe,
I try to tell folks, 9-.9.5 WITH scope ... 11.5# is a beast! recoil is, well, lighter than *I* expected

Thanks Jeffe for the advice will do the math again and cut some of the weight will shot for 9.25 Clint

Built a 458AR in the last 18 months and now am onto a 500AR(at bedding stage).

500AR is on a 98 action, 20" bbl, Boyds lami stock, peep sights.

458AR was built on a Ruger action, shilen 5.5 barrel that has now been fluted pretty heavily to cut down on weight.

I agree on weight, they don't kick as bad as first expected and I would not build as heavy the second time.

Paz

If any of ya'll are gonna build a 470AR, I've got 20pcs of Remington 375 RUM brass and a box Hornady 400gr(?) XTP's that I'd like to sell and would make ya'll a pretty good deal in. I was gonna do a 470AR, but right now all projects are on hold due to economics and the construction industry being in the crapper.

I listed them in the classifides a while back, but noone bit. PM me if interested.

Thanks,

David

MY barrel come today! now just have to make time for the machining Clint

My choice is the 458 AR

well got time this weekend to work on MY stuff! I still don,t like the looks of cross bolts but there now in my stock and plugged with a wood cap(there starting to look better to me)the next thing to pin the wrist. having fun Clint

had time to work on the wrist pin this morning now the limbsaver pad clint

grind lightly on the limbsaver, or it will gum up on the sides ... its weird to work on .. i like them.. they are good on recoil and pyhiscally heavy!

yes i know i am lucky my neighbor is a factory rep an spokesman for sims and get me great deals on the stuff. have them on 3 guns now Clint

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
grind lightly on the limbsaver, or it will gum up on the sides ... its weird to work on .. i like them.. they are good on recoil and pyhiscally heavy!

Jeffe, what do you use to do the grinding with?

Am planning to use a belt sander attachment on the bench grinder, the blurb that comes with the pad suggests to use wd-40 as a lube sprayed on the sanding belt, do you worry about this or just grind slowly?

Got one on my 458 that was a made to fit, the one on my 500 is a grind to fit.

Paz

I use a 6" belt sander (6x48) and 12" disc .. i get better results from the belt, as its rougher and cleaners faster, i think!

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
I use a 6" belt sander (6x48) and 12" disc .. i get better results from the belt, as its rougher and cleaners faster, i think!

Thanks Jeffe, will go the belt sander and not worry bout the WD-40.

Paz

hey guys
I have just been awarded a 458 ar reamer

and ordert 2 barrels from borderbarrels twist 1 / 10 "
one being built on a Brno ZG47 the second on a Ruger roundtop tangSafety
on the brno the bottom metal will have a Rigby corfin hopfuly 5 pcs 458AR ind the mag
the barrel and botommetal will bee QBQ treated
the stok will bee a BEll & Carlson Medalist
ther will bee open sight on the rifle ........I dont know what type think peep hole

that's great news!

yesterday and today got to work in the metal shop. got the barrel turned next is to thread the shank and mill out the front sight ramp, sling swivel, rear sight base then chamber. Is coming along very well! will try to post pic later.Having fun Clint

reamer, gauge, and dummies on the way, clint

Another good in the shop today we are threaded the shank the swivel is milled out the front ramp is half done(the hard half)! next time finish the front mill the rear base and maybe crown the muzzle. while i was doing this my brother finished barreling his 10/22 with a 1/9 twist Montana blank Clint

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Originally posted by Paz:
Built a 458AR in the last 18 months and now am onto a 500AR(at bedding stage).

500AR is on a 98 action, 20" bbl, Boyds lami stock, peep sights.

458AR was built on a Ruger action, shilen 5.5 barrel that has now been fluted pretty heavily to cut down on weight.

I agree on weight, they don't kick as bad as first expected and I would not build as heavy the second time.

Paz

Where did you get your boyd's stock from if you dont mind me asking?

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Originally posted by Brando:Where did you get your boyd's stock from if you dont mind me asking?

Mate i bought it direct from Boyds, was under a US$100 so no problems getting it out of the states.

Have bought two of them so far, best to ring them direct to order.

Paz

just a heads up called Hornaday today to order my dies for the 458acc rel 4-5 months lead time at this time!wow wish my company was doing that well. well maybe I'll get to shoot it by deer season Clint

I'll loan you a set ...
they have been running way shorter than that ..