i am new here not a novice but not a pro

13 March 2009, 06:32

i am an addicted double nut,i have in the last two years collected a bakail 45 70,a zoli 9.3x74r,a zoli 450 400,a merkel 470,and in the next few weeks i will complete my collection with a 600 NE.but there are few 600 owners of the 600 ne and need some pointers.ammo carriers i know a-square and kynoch carry it but thats all i know,big bolts i have a 375 and am eyeing a 416 rigby,but the julian auction has my first attention.some of you know me from nitro express.and i am looking foward to meeting new people here .i live in central florida and would like to have a shoot.i hope to be be welcomed here and will pass what i know and am here to learn.thanks

13 March 2009, 06:45

jeffeosso

Howdy and Welcome
We have a Big Bore and a double rifle forum that will welcome you right on it.

14 March 2009, 16:41

Robgunbuilder

welcome-I'm probably one of the few with .600ne and .600ok experience. Hope your not buying a Heym. Nevertheless, I have many loads available to share.-Rob

14 March 2009, 17:44

JudgeG

I'm just up I-95 (two hours, fifteen minutes) in Brunswick, GA.

I've had a two Cogswell & Harrisons doubles (.375 Express and a .475 N.E.), a Lyon & Lyon .450/.400 3 1/4", a Westley-Richards in the same caliber, a Baikal with the .45/70 inserts, Searcy's in .470 and .450/.400 3" and I now own a Merkel 141(e) in 9.3x74. Searcy is just about finished with a Classic in .450 N.E. I may be leaving one out???

I've reloaded for them all, but have about delegated that task to Hornady. I can't imagine buying 600 N.E. ammo factory made. It would hurt my pocketbook more than my shoulder to pull a right and left and spend as much as a bottle of single malt... oooowwwww!

Read about using monolithic bullets and decide if you reload (which I assume you will). I wouldn't use A-Square for paperweights, btw, but different strokes.

If you want to drive north some Saturday morning, we can get some DRSS folks together and I'll make a buffalo target or two and we can make some noise. (and yes, Jorge, bolt rifle trash will be tolerated).

14 March 2009, 20:59

butchloc

me gottem few doubles too - welcome to the site

14 March 2009, 22:29

450/400

Rob, just curious, what's wrong with the Heym? Or why do not like them?

15 March 2009, 22:03

butchloc

well they are french so if you are involved in a charge, they flip around and shoot backwards over your shoulder

15 March 2009, 22:16

Robgunbuilder

quote:
Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
I have a .600NE Heym and I use the same load in it as I use in my .600OK ( the plinking load- 168 gr IMR7828 and a 900 gr bullet- good for 2100fps). In the Heym it is simply the single most painfull recoil event I have ever experienced and that covers some serious groud. The gun FLIPS upward in a nearly uncontrollable manner as a lovely extension of its obnoxious behaviour. The Heym will also only feed solids reliably. THE exact same load in my .600OK is a pleasure to shoot. IMHO the atrocious stock design, heavy barrel, weight lack of a muzzel brake, feeding issues etc. all combine to make the now $15,000 Heym .600NE a total POS in my opinion. BTW for a $15,000 gun the wood Heym uses looks like a piece of railroad track( no I TAKE THAT BACK, RAILROAD TRACK IS TOO GOOD IN COMPARISON). This guns only value to me is when I run into a know it all braggard( I'd pay money to see Shootaway pull the trigger on this puppy), I talk them into shooting it( they are morons afterall) and then just love to see the expressions on their face and the dark purple bruises afterwards. It nearly knocked the teeth outa one guy! NO ONE has EVER SHOT IT TWICE except me( and I'm not excited about it)! The gun is built stout and could probably take full .600OK loads, but I assure you a Hospital trip would follow.-Rob

15 March 2009, 22:51

Dom

After that explanation Rob, glad I'm not on your list to shoot it

Waidmannsheil, Dom.

15 March 2009, 23:19

450/400

Butch, your joke would be funny if it were only true. Heym made in France? Really?

15 March 2009, 23:51

butchloc

oops my bad i was thinking of chappuis

16 March 2009, 01:35

bwananelson

a shoot would be great,and in a nice area to boot.i can see it happening.....thanks

16 March 2009, 03:33

Dave Bush

quote:
Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
quote:
Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
I have a .600NE Heym and I use the same load in it as I use in my .600OK ( the plinking load- 168 gr IMR7828 and a 900 gr bullet- good for 2100fps). In the Heym it is simply the single most painfull recoil event I have ever experienced and that covers some serious groud. The gun FLIPS upward in a nearly uncontrollable manner as a lovely extension of its obnoxious behaviour. The Heym will also only feed solids reliably. THE exact same load in my .600OK is a pleasure to shoot. IMHO the atrocious stock design, heavy barrel, weight lack of a muzzel brake, feeding issues etc. all combine to make the now $15,000 Heym .600NE a total POS in my opinion. BTW for a $15,000 gun the wood Heym uses looks like a piece of railroad track( no I TAKE THAT BACK, RAILROAD TRACK IS TOO GOOD IN COMPARISON). This guns only value to me is when I run into a know it all braggard( I'd pay money to see Shootaway pull the trigger on this puppy), I talk them into shooting it( they are morons afterall) and then just love to see the expressions on their face and the dark purple bruises afterwards. It nearly knocked the teeth outa one guy! NO ONE has EVER SHOT IT TWICE except me( and I'm not excited about it)! The gun is built stout and could probably take full .600OK loads, but I assure you a Hospital trip would follow.-Rob

Rob (or anyone else):

I was wondering, have you ever shot a .577 NE or the .585 AHR? How does the recoil of the .577 compare to a .600. I have read may articles suggesting that there never were many .600s because the because the .577 could be made lighter and was considered adequate for elephant even in the heaviest cover.

Dave

Dave
DRSS
Chapuis 9.3X74
Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL
Krieghoff 500/.416 NE
Krieghoff 500 NE

"Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer"

"If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition).

16 March 2009, 07:59

Robgunbuilder

Dave- basically the 585 AHR and my .585/.600Ok are for all intents and purposes the same. I and Fritz 454 did the .585/.600Ok well before AHR and I told them no issue on my part iof theyb wanted to commericialize it. I found thyere was nothing I could do with it that I couldnt do with a 750 gr .620 bullet and why give up any bullet diameter? I'm a big hole in, Big hole out kinda guy. Both will kill anything that walks this earth. I,ve shot lotsa .577NE and the .600NE is a big step up. The full power .600Ok is a much bigger step up! No bullet and no caliber is good against even the lightest cover in reality. Bullets deflect easily, however on a clear shot the effect just has to be seen to be believed. When hunting I believe anyone can handle the recoil of a .577NE or .600ne IF THEY HAVE DECENT TRAINING. Its really not bad till 2300-2400fps or so in a gun thats properly designed( No HEYMS)-Rob

16 March 2009, 17:43

Dave Bush

Thanks Rob.

Dave