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25 August 2016, 06:10
SAFARIKID
Hornady 458Lott DGX or 458 BARNES TSX.Performance ?
Any of you try these out on things made of meat? Pics and Performance ? 2300fps × 500 = Dead Stuff! dancing


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25 August 2016, 06:33
Slider
This 400gr. DGX was recovered from a Buff. As were the other two 400 gr Swifts. Rifle used was a 450/400 at 2160 Muzzle velocity. Impact was approximately 60 yards. The other two DGX'S were pass throughs.

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27 August 2016, 00:46
Biebs
Tom, if you're talking Hog bullets, any will probably work based on their weight and momentum alone. If you're talking African game, IMHO the Swift A-Frame is the most effective of the bullets for larger calibers. Just look at the example above....seems they all come out like that when recovered.
27 August 2016, 03:19
SAFARIKID
Agree on that....But for hogs at under 80 yards want something that will not only kill but make a huge mess!
I have shot big ones with 600s but I'm not looking for just punch through,I want gapping craters ! Lol..I think the 350 to 450 Tsx will do this?!
High velocity and high performance bullets for huge holes!


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27 August 2016, 20:04
boom stick
Have you tried the lighter Cutting Edge Bullets ESP Raptor bullets at higher velocity? Those things at high velocity just shred up anything! Wicked!


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29 August 2016, 04:52
Dogleg
Used the 480 DGX in .450 Nitro Express factory loads on one Asiatic buffalo. Pure junk, bullets penetrated about 6 inches and blew up. Maybe they've fixed them since then. Maybe if Hornady will pay for my ammo and a return trip I'll give them another chance. Can't imagine that happening.

I've shot somewhere between 30-40 with the TSXs, and find them a very good.
29 August 2016, 05:42
INTJ
I once got two hogs with one shot with a 416 300 grain X bullet. MV was 2700 fps, range 60 yds, small hogs. Didn't see the second hog. Broadside on the first hog, bullet had just started to expand when it exited. Hit the second hog in the butt and exited out the chest. Made a 4" wound channel on the way through.

My only concern about a .458 350 grain TSX or TTSX on hogs is expansion. It took my 300 grain X bullet 12" of hog to even start expanding. Once it expanded it performed great. Maybe a TTSX would expand more reliably?
29 August 2016, 06:08
SAFARIKID
Yes,I am hoping the same,hence the light faster choices for this caliber ...In 2007 I had X Bullets in my 500 Jeffery and they just passed through a Brown Bear several times! I think they were 570s @2200? Had to go into the Alderson after him..he was sick but not dead...Anyway I want VIOLENT EXPANSION AND DEVASTATION!
Guess I need to talk to Barnes ! Thank You


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29 August 2016, 06:16
Biebs
Tom, PM me your address. I have a bunch of 458 bullets...A-Frames, Colorado Customs, Hornady, Bear Claws, Barnes.
31 August 2016, 02:10
Atkinson
I guess Im old school, I like big heavy bullets at slower velocity, they penetrate better..velocity contrary to some, can very well create more expansion and that stops penetration...

Not so much on the lighter animals, but the big bad boys of Africa die best with the 500 gr. bullets in the Lott and the .458 win...The newer 550 Woodleighs are a match for anything.

I really liked the 450 Woodleighs in my 416 and 404. Woodliegh bullets have been tested for many years and made their bones...Some of the new stuff make awesome claims, but so far Im not particularly impressed..In the newer stuff I like GS Customs and North Forks flat nose solids and the HPs and softs also..These are good bullets IMO and have not failed me in any big bore caliber. I have observed the heavy caliber Barnes and Swift bullets on buffalo and they are impressive, more so than the results I have seen in in them with light and medium calibers or so it seems to me.

But bullets, like calibers, the final choice is up to the user..Today it would be pretty hard to condem any bullet out there..I have not seen bullet failure in quite some time..Not so in the early years pre Nosler.


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31 August 2016, 02:36
thecanadian
480gr .458 DGX bullets are probably the most technologically advance bullet today, 100% effective. Upon impact, the gliding metal jacket peals back to expose the soft led core. This 'soft' core separates and dumps its entire energy payload into the animal within the first few inches. When the wounded animal charges, Mark Sullivan shoots it for you. Works like a charm.



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31 August 2016, 03:03
SAFARIKID
Bahaha...No DGX for me...Barnes Copper X styles for me!


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01 September 2016, 23:49
Atkinson
Darn, and Ive been calling that bullet failure for years. Eeker


Ray Atkinson
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Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

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02 September 2016, 00:04
Dogleg
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Originally posted by thecanadian:
480gr .458 DGX bullets are probably the most technologically advance bullet today, 100% effective. Upon impact, the gliding metal jacket peals back to expose the soft led core. This 'soft' core separates and dumps its entire energy payload into the animal within the first few inches. When the wounded animal charges, Mark Sullivan shoots it for you. Works like a charm.


Hmmm, looks like mine. I don't think someone could pay me enough to like them, though they may be perfect for killing pigs witha .458.


02 September 2016, 00:28
SAFARIKID
A good fellow member is sending me some for grrst price so for pigs may be perfect !


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02 September 2016, 04:45
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I used a 570g TSX at 2300 fps for my hog. Probably a bit overkill. Shot him at 8 feet as he started walking towards me in the brush. Bullet entered between the eyes (slightly to the left), destroyed all of the neck vertebrae, continued on and left a desert plate sized exit hole in his left butt cheek. Never did find the bullet. When we opened him up his guts were liquified. Probably too much gun lol ... I do tend to favor the Swift A-Frames but really can't fault the 570g TSX, seems like a great bullet.




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02 September 2016, 05:13
shootaway
The thing I don't like about the TSX is that like all monometal bullets they are hard and that makes stabilizing more difficult.They are also too long and that creates another stabilizing issue.I feel that they wear out the bore too soon too.They take up to much powder space as well so you have to really compress a charge or go with a faster burning powder.I prefer using them in medium bores with much higher velocity and lower bullet weight.
02 September 2016, 06:03
LHeym500
Me. Shootaway:
I always thought it was length of momometals that made stabilization an issue or length of a extra heavy (not common bullet weight) for standard rifle twist used by manufactures. Thank you, for the information.
07 September 2016, 03:52
Badger Matt
I was pleased with the TSX performance in my 458 WM. First shot dropped him in his tracks at 50 yds...others just kept him down.

Two 458 TSX from the Buff and a 338 Nosler Partition from the Wildebeest.

18 September 2016, 14:17
416RigbyHunter
quote:
Originally posted by SAFARIKID:
Any of you try these out on things made of meat? Pics and Performance ? 2300fps × 500 = Dead Stuff! dancing

I have and still am using 500gr DGX outta my 458 Lott. I wasn't impressed with the performance. My Woodleigh RNSP out penetrate the DGX by a fair margin. I am still using them, I will go through a box before I pass full judgement.

Cheers.
coffee
18 September 2016, 14:58
jwp475
quote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
Me. Shootaway:
I always thought it was length of momometals that made stabilization an issue or length of a extra heavy (not common bullet weight) for standard rifle twist used by manufactures. Thank you, for the information.


You are correct the length is the stabilization issue.


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