The Accurate Reloading Forums
CZ 550 safari magnum anyone?

This topic can be found at:
https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4711043/m/734100504

15 January 2006, 06:12
wapiti7
CZ 550 safari magnum anyone?
I'm looking at one of these in .416 Rigby. Since I've never owned a CZ product, I dont know about buying one. Are they any good or not?
I'm wondering if theyre as good as a winchester or remington etc.... Any help would be great. .........wapiti7


www.youthoutdoors.org
15 January 2006, 06:28
Peter
wapiti7. Do a search on this topic, you will find plenty of information. I have the CZ in both 416 Rigby and 375 H&H. I consider them to be a "best buy". The 416 has the "hogback" stock and the 375 has the American. I love them both. They are very accurate.
Peter.


Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong;
15 January 2006, 06:45
MJines
Just picked up my CZ550 American Safari Magnum in .416 Rigby yesterday, as a matter of fact. I have both a Ruger Safari Magnum (.375 H&H) and a Winchester M70 Safari Express (.416 Rem.). I really like the look and feel of the CZ. It is substantial but without being heavy or bulky (the Ruger is a brick). The action is good, the trigger pull is good. The price is outstanding. Paid $775 for mine, which is a couple of hundred dollars less than the M70 and damn near half the cost of the Ruger. Have not shot mine yet as I am waiting to get the stock bedded first. I did a fair amount of research on the CZ and the only real knock I could find was that the stocks, if not bedded, have a history of splitting.


Mike
15 January 2006, 08:25
woodsracer
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:

Have not shot mine yet as I am waiting to get the stock bedded first. I did a fair amount of research on the CZ and the only real knock I could find was that the stocks, if not bedded, have a history of splitting.


Exactly, that's why mine now looks like THIS. Well, except for the "handle." rotflmo


"They who would give up an essential Liberty for Temporary Security, deserves neither Liberty or Security." ---Benjamin Franklin


"SIC SEMPER TYRANNUS"
15 January 2006, 08:34
MJines
Based on reading through a fair number of posts it sounds like bedding the stock with devcon or steelbed will eliminate the cracking potential. If not, there is always McMillan or a laminated stock. I like the walnut stock though so I intend to give the bedding option a chance first.


Mike
15 January 2006, 08:46
RIP
I really enjoy the Hogback (Euro Lux), but I will tolerate the American stock just fine if I get the LOP right.

It is not hard to crossbolt fore and aft of the magazine box, put in pillars, and glass bed, including the barrel channel out to and including the recoil lug contraption.

If you do that, the CZ walnut will be stronger than any birch laminate plywood stock.

In fact, the plywood stocks need the above fix worse than the walnut does.

McMillan stocks can take the pounding without anything other than glass bedding.
15 January 2006, 15:05
Will
RIP,

I thought you thought fiberglass was a dirty word. Smiler

One of the things I do not care for on a CZ 550 Mag is the relatively short bolt handle. It should be more like the one on the 550. CZ knows it is not quite right but have not changed it. Maybe someday.

But you are the number one witness for the CZ Mag being the number one basis for going to any of an infinite number of big wildcats.


-------------------------------
Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun.
---------------------------------------
and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR
_________________________

"Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped.
“Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped.

red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com
_________________________

If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go.

15 January 2006, 15:13
Michael Robinson
Yes, I agree about the bolts.

And CZ should straighten the bolt and fill in the hollow as well, while they're at it.

I have three rifles with heavily modified CZ 550 Magnum actions, but no CZ-built rifles, except a nice little .22.

But the CZ 550 Magnums are good starting points for a serious big game rifle, IMHO.


Mike

Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
15 January 2006, 18:05
Redhawk1
I have a CZ 550 Safari Magnum with the Hogback stock in 416 Rigby. I never shot it, I have it at the gunsmith getting glass bedded and pillars installed. Should be done soon. Can't wait to get to the range with it.


If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Member of the Delaware Destroyers
Member Reeders Misfits
NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER
NAHC Life Member
DSA Life Member
15 January 2006, 20:56
woodsracer
quote:
Originally posted by Redhawk1:
I have a CZ 550 Safari Magnum with the Hogback stock in 416 Rigby. I never shot it, I have it at the gunsmith getting glass bedded and pillars installed. Should be done soon. Can't wait to get to the range with it.


You'll love that caliber once you shoot it!!! Just enough to "get your attention" while not being too punishing. I own TWO, one CZ, and one RSM. Wink

Do yourself a favor and start freezing 2 liter Coke bottles with food-colored water. I made a 10x10x16 BLOCK of ice by using a box and double bagging it twice with garbage bags. It took me freezing it in two stages (red and blue=a BIG popsicle), I shot it lengthways and at my FIRST SHOT it EXPLODED into a mushroom cloud and the biggest piece of ice was about like a quarter!!! I was "hooked" from then on!!! Big Grin Now, I want something BIGGER!!! animal


"They who would give up an essential Liberty for Temporary Security, deserves neither Liberty or Security." ---Benjamin Franklin


"SIC SEMPER TYRANNUS"
15 January 2006, 23:28
RIP
quote:
Originally posted by Will:
RIP,

I thought you thought fiberglass was a dirty word. Smiler

One of the things I do not care for on a CZ 550 Mag is the relatively short bolt handle. It should be more like the one on the 550. CZ knows it is not quite right but have not changed it. Maybe someday.

But you are the number one witness for the CZ Mag being the number one basis for going to any of an infinite number of big wildcats.


Will,
You got me confused with Ray. I am about one quarter century younger, and I think fiberglass is best.

Dakota Arms knows that. They cannot make as much money on it as they do with silly walnut "upgrades" so they will not sell you a fiberglass stock unless you buy upgraded walnut from them first. animal

HA!/DOA was born as a parody of Dakota Arms.

It is true that I had started on the Lapua Wildcats years before Dakota announced the .423 Dakota Lapua cartridge.

We were independently developing the .423 Lapua simultaneously.

That is their first Lapua. It is my last.

Order of my preference for stocks:

Fiberglass
Serengetti walnut laminate
Walnut

Cheers! cheers
Laminate
16 January 2006, 00:24
boom stick
rip...

off subject but why not have your own custom solids made? have them lathe turned with multiple canalures for the tembo tusks. flat nose and cup points...call em tembo tusks or somthin'...big meplats! maybe even a screw in meplat plate that will not deform call em jumbo penetrotors or something...pretty easy to make...maybe i should get my dad to make some...he is a r+d machinist. just a flat nose with a drilled and taped hole and screw in a variety of meplat size fronts.


577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

*we band of 45-70ers* (Founder)
Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder)
16 January 2006, 00:30
boom stick
or they could be press fitted without the threads but i like the idea of a variety of meplats depending on game and situation...just take your loaded ammo and put in the tip of choice on the day of hunt!

damn i love this idea!

just needs a torx hole in the top


577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

*we band of 45-70ers* (Founder)
Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder)
16 January 2006, 00:52
PC
I own one and am very happy with it, there great value and a tough rifle.
16 January 2006, 07:29
Redhawk1
quote:
Originally posted by woodsracer:
quote:
Originally posted by Redhawk1:
I have a CZ 550 Safari Magnum with the Hogback stock in 416 Rigby. I never shot it, I have it at the gunsmith getting glass bedded and pillars installed. Should be done soon. Can't wait to get to the range with it.


You'll love that caliber once you shoot it!!! Just enough to "get your attention" while not being too punishing. I own TWO, one CZ, and one RSM. Wink

Do yourself a favor and start freezing 2 liter Coke bottles with food-colored water. I made a 10x10x16 BLOCK of ice by using a box and double bagging it twice with garbage bags. It took me freezing it in two stages (red and blue=a BIG popsicle), I shot it lengthways and at my FIRST SHOT it EXPLODED into a mushroom cloud and the biggest piece of ice was about like a quarter!!! I was "hooked" from then on!!! Big Grin Now, I want something BIGGER!!! animal


I know I will like the caliber. I already have a 416 Rigby in my Encore. I took a water buffalo with it. One shot. Big Grin


If you're going to make a hole, make it a big one.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Member of the Delaware Destroyers
Member Reeders Misfits
NRA Life Member ENDOWMENT MEMBER
NAHC Life Member
DSA Life Member
28 January 2006, 06:55
Head Trauma
The CZ 416 Rigby is a great rifle. Mine has a M70 bolt handle, sits in a Brockman laminated stock with a Leupold 1.5x5 scope with Talley detachable rings. With Barnes banded (flat point)solids it is a buffalo thumper par excellance. The only problem with it is after a few PH's handle it they don't want to give it back.Go for it.
28 January 2006, 07:13
gixxer
Honest question, does that hog back stock either

A. kick the snot outa you compared to a straight butt stock.

or B. cause muzzle flip like a 3.5" barreled 500 S&W?!
28 January 2006, 09:53
congomike
I guess I am one of the very strange ones...the hogback stock kicked the snot out of me..damn near developed a flinch after shooting 20 rounds between two shooting sessions. Mine is a 416 Rigby. On the other hand, I owned at one time both a 378 and 460 Wthby in their Mk V's. I found the recoil on the 460 to be easier than my Winchester pre 64 .458 , and the 378 to be not bad at all. The both shot well, but I had to get rid of them when I took the 460 barreled action out of the stock and the magazine box fell apart into two pieces in my hand....But like I said, I guess I am a strange one.
28 January 2006, 20:28
BlackHawk1
The CZ550 Safari Magnum I have is in 375 H&H and has the hogsback stock. I agree with RIP, I don't find the recoil unpleasant at all and I like the aesthetics. Different strokes for different folks.

Now if I just can get a tag for the elusive Nebraskan White Rhino........ Razzer


BH1

There are no flies on 6.5s!
29 January 2006, 09:31
JKS
On the stock isuue, I agree it's different strokes... My two 550 Mags (416 Rigby and 375) are of the earlier "euro" variety. The 375 is a sweetheart but I don't care for the euro stock in the Rigby. To me my RSM Rigby with it's "classic" stock is more pleasant to shoot. BUT, this is just MHO.

The CZs are fine rifles, robust and accurate. I prefer the Ruger RSMs but they are more money and can need tuning too. Buy the rifle that you like and fits you well. All will require some touching up/fine tuning. Buying a rifle and getting into the bigger bores is the important part Big Grin

John


There are those that do, those that dream, and those that only read about it and then post their "expertise" on AR!
29 January 2006, 20:28
Frank Martinez
Now if I just can get a tag for the elusive Nebraskan White Rhino........ Razzer


BH1[/quote]
You may get your wish once "Re-Wilding" takes place. We may even see plains game and lions in the future if the idea catches on.
Frank