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inadequate penetration
30 October 2006, 04:34
jeffeossoinadequate penetration
This bullet seems to have detonated on impact... Wonder if it's a twist issue?
********** watch the white DOT ***********
WARNING - 3.1meg video of poor bullet performanceWhat's the twist on that one, george?
I can see the advert right now...
"for sale"
Slightly used Boar Hide
Air Dried
Can be seen exiting frame left!!
jeffe
30 October 2006, 05:04
500grainsJeff, I take it from your silence on the 500 A2 thread that you do not want to participate in a penetration test of fast twist versus slow twist barrels.
30 October 2006, 08:32
smallfryjeffe... What exactly are we looking at?
I am back from a long Hiatus... or whatever.
Take care.
smallfry
30 October 2006, 09:42
GeorgeSJeffe,
I just got home. Both airports were an absolute madhouse.
Thanks for a great time; try to have some bigger rifles next time. Those .458 Lott, .470AR, and .550 Magnum peashooters didn't even give me a nosebleed.
Smallfry,
If I remember correctly (all the way back to yesterday), that's a Sierra MatchKing from a 1-10" twist barrel.

Penetration from 25yds. was about 1" before the bullet (and test media) 'came apart'.
George
30 October 2006, 10:26
RobgunbuilderYes- the penetration of the 1:10 twist barrel was indeed very poor with the 300 gr bullet. Pathetic in fact!-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
30 October 2006, 11:00
RIPQuit being so pathetically cryptic. What bullet? What rifle? 10" twisted GSC FN's or North Fork FP's of .375/300gr to .510/570gr at velocities of 2100 to 2700 fps will penetrate as well or better than anything.
That 10" twist lets one use a greater variety of bullets of all makes (for their proper uses)and costs less than 1% in velocity or less than 1% in pressure, and less than 0.1 MOA.
Those are the facts. No obfuscations will change them.
Get real.

30 October 2006, 11:27
GrandpasezThe Kids real gun penetrated fine and his twist is only 1 to 48 I think.Ed.
MZEE WA SIKU
30 October 2006, 11:44
GerardWhat software ar you guys using to view the video? Windows XP wants me to download an Apple program to view it??
30 October 2006, 12:14
TailgunnerGerard
There using "Quicktime" which is a one of the standard formats for video. Yes, it's a Apple product
30 October 2006, 16:28
JMJ888Jeffe,
Looks like you and the boys had a "blast"...pun intended.
Sorry I missed it.
30 October 2006, 16:35
jeffeossoDan,
I left wednesday morning with quite a few guys (Rob, Neal, George, Mike D, Tigger, Gringo, FLA30-06) to go hunting for the week.... I'll get back with you n the barrel
All,
George will tell his tale!
jeffe
30 October 2006, 18:22
packrattusnongratusAnd the story is???
30 October 2006, 18:41
fla3006Jeffe, as always, I had a super time. Fine camaraderie with kindred spirits! Special thanks to George, Neal, Mike, Rob who went great lengths.
NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS.
Shoot & hunt with vintage classics.
30 October 2006, 18:55
Idaho SharpshooterI can't believe you didn't mail my invitation out in time!! OF course, you knew I was working on the deal to get those M30's and P17's. Call me on my cell when you get a chance today.
Rich
30 October 2006, 19:18
Gringo CazadorI think the pig hide flying through the air had a 1-10 twist...........one twist in 100 ft, but quite stable for a pig hide none the less.
Billy,
High in the shoulder
(we band of bubbas)
30 October 2006, 19:42
500grainsquote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Dan,
I left wednesday morning with quite a few guys (Rob, Neal, George, Mike D, Tigger, Gringo, FLA30-06) to go hunting for the week.... I'll get back with you n the barrel
I did ask you several times, including before you left, but did not see any response. Usually a lack of response means no.
31 October 2006, 05:13
RobgunbuilderAll Bubbas have taken the sacred oath to never never use a 1:10 twist barrel in any caliber above .22 LR due to the INFERIOR performance witnessed by all on Saturday. Our conclusion, despite the protestations of the un-initiated and I should add un-tested wanna-be's is that the 1:10 twist with a 300 gr bullet provides INFERIOR results on real game animals. Case Closed!-Rob

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
31 October 2006, 07:36
JKSC'mon guys, tell us the whole story, with details! Are we looking at a small hog hit with a BIG round??? The results are like my Lott on a rockchuck
John
There are those that do, those that dream, and those that only read about it and then post their "expertise" on AR!
31 October 2006, 08:28
jnc91Looks like someone has been playing with a little tannerite

The true measure of a hunters skill is not the size of the trophy but rather the length of the shot with the greater measure of skill being the shorter shot---Jeff Cooper
31 October 2006, 11:02
Hog Killerquote:
Originally posted by jnc91:
Looks like someone has been playing with a little tannerite

Give that man a Cigggar
31 October 2006, 20:18
GeorgeSHog Killer,
You missed a great time!
George
31 October 2006, 21:02
Hog KillerGeorge, as things turned out, I had to be here Friday and Saturday. Had to serve as a pallbearer on Sat.
I am SURE y'all had a blast.
Hog Killer
IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!!
------------------------------------
We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club
31 October 2006, 22:15
JKSAhhh, I get it now..."explosive expansion"!

There are those that do, those that dream, and those that only read about it and then post their "expertise" on AR!
01 November 2006, 04:45
.366torquequote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
This bullet seems to have detonated on impact... Wonder if it's a twist issue?
********** watch the white DOT ***********
WARNING - 3.1meg video of poor bullet performanceWhat's the twist on that one, george?
I can see the advert right now...
"for sale"
Slightly used Boar Hide
Air Dried
Can be seen exiting frame left!!
jeffe
WTF!!! WWHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEE!!!! Real fun in the South!

01 November 2006, 05:51
CanuckSome buddy wanna tell the story already?

01 November 2006, 16:49
jeffeossoChris,
I was waiting for everyone to tell their stories... I'll lay out the outline about 9:30 central.. gotta scoot right now
jeffe
01 November 2006, 17:01
El DeguelloCool movie-but it tells one absolutely nothing......
"Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen."
02 November 2006, 07:09
.366torquequote:
Originally posted by Canuck:
Some buddy wanna tell the story already?
Nice update to your photos Chris!!!

02 November 2006, 19:29
.366torquequote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Chris,
I was waiting for everyone to tell their stories... I'll lay out the outline about 9:30 central.. gotta scoot right now
jeffe
Time's up!!!
