THE ACCURATERELOADING.COM BIG BORE FORUMS

Accuratereloading.com    The Accurate Reloading Forums    THE ACCURATE RELOADING.COM FORUMS  Hop To Forum Categories  Rifles  Hop To Forums  Big Bores    How rare is the Ruger #1 in 404 Jeff.

Moderators: jeffeosso
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
How rare is the Ruger #1 in 404 Jeff. Login/Join
 
One of Us
posted
How rare are these. I have a letter from Ruger stating none were ever sold.Does anyone know for sure how many left the factory?
 
Posts: 101 | Registered: 26 May 2005Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
Whilst I don't know how many No1 in 404 were made.
I clearly remember a No1 404 being offered on Auctionarms.
I suppose, to be fair, it could be the case that Ruger gave the gun away. animal
 
Posts: 1374 | Location: New Zealand | Registered: 10 February 2005Reply With Quote
Moderator
Picture of jeffeosso
posted Hide Post
depends on who barreled it!!!


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
Posts: 40637 | Location: Conroe, TX | Registered: 01 June 2002Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
I believe I heard recently that Ruger made less than 200 rifles in the 404J.


"An individual with experience is never at the mercies of an individual with an argument"
 
Posts: 1827 | Location: Palmer AK & Prescott Valley AZ | Registered: 01 February 2005Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
I examined one of those ca. 1993-1994 at a small upstate NY gun shop. Nice rifle, it even had two blue/black boxes of ammo with it! I remember it well, because I used 7x57 Steyr-Mannlicher at that time and never heard of .404 Jeffrey before. Very unusual cartridge shape, actually quite alluring. Wink
 
Posts: 1126 | Registered: 03 June 2005Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of recoilpad
posted Hide Post
If memory serves me right, I believe Ruger made somewhere around 80 No. 1's in .404 Jeffery. They were supposedly going to chamber that caliber in the Ruger 77, but I have never seen one.


"Big ears doesn't make you a good listener, but big feet will tell on you." - Mr. Bill Clinton
 
Posts: 339 | Location: Texas via Louisiana | Registered: 29 October 2003Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of BwanaBob
posted Hide Post
Well I don't know how many they made but they definitely sold some because I had one for several years, before a friend talked me out of it. He still has it and shoots it frequently.

Now I am working on building a Ruger No3 in .450/400 to replace it!


"White men with their ridiculous civilization lie far from me. No longer need I be a slave to money" (W.D.M Bell)
www.cybersafaris.com.au
 
Posts: 909 | Location: Blackheath, NSW, Australia | Registered: 26 May 2002Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
depends on who barreled it!!!

It's dificult to be sure, you know what memory can be like, but as I recall it was sold as a rare Ruger factory produced rifle. The asking price was certainly far more than No1's usualy sell for.

As Bawanabob confirms Ruger did make no1's in 404. Perhaps he can tell us how it came into his possesion and if it was a new rifle when he aquired it.
Bawana, if you are of the view that such a request is impertinent, then please ignore it.

I have been wrong before, my wife tells me so.
 
Posts: 1374 | Location: New Zealand | Registered: 10 February 2005Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of Oldsarge
posted Hide Post
I saw one for sale at a gun show once, in unfired condition. I believe that the seller said it was one of about a dozen that were made as a very special run. Perhaps they were "feelers" to see if there was a market. If so, one cannot help but wonder why the decision to go into full production was never made. I have heard that it was a question of liability (what isn't anymore, damned ambulance chasers!) because the cartridge has never been standardized by SAAMI but don't know whether to believe it or not.


Sarge

Holland's .375: One Planet, One Rifle . . . for one hundred years!
 
Posts: 2690 | Location: Lakewood, CA. USA | Registered: 07 January 2001Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
I think I remember something about ignition problems with them (supposedly due to non standard chambers or some such) so Oldsarge is on target I think. There was a thread here on this a ways back I believe.
 
Posts: 163 | Location: Vincennes, IN | Registered: 29 January 2004Reply With Quote
One of Us
posted Hide Post
One came through the local shop here in Lakewood Co about 5 years ago. Only one I've seen, but I haven't been looking elsewhere very much. Could have bought it for 400 bucks. Kick kick kick Smiler
 
Posts: 180 | Location: lakewood, co | Registered: 26 March 2006Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of D99
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Oldsarge:
I saw one for sale at a gun show once, in unfired condition. I believe that the seller said it was one of about a dozen that were made as a very special run. Perhaps they were "feelers" to see if there was a market. If so, one cannot help but wonder why the decision to go into full production was never made. I have heard that it was a question of liability (what isn't anymore, damned ambulance chasers!) because the cartridge has never been standardized by SAAMI but don't know whether to believe it or not.


Art Alphin from A-Square made all the old Brits into SAAMI rounds so he could manufacture ammunition for them. No other legal way around it!
 
Posts: 4729 | Location: Australia | Registered: 06 February 2005Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of Strut10
posted Hide Post
There's one listed on GA right now, NIB for $2K.


Founder....the OTPG
 
Posts: 764 | Location: slightly off | Registered: 22 March 2004Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by D99:

Art Alphin from A-Square made all the old Brits into SAAMI rounds so he could manufacture ammunition for them. No other legal way around it!


Good point. Regarding the 404 Jeffery, A-Square has the correct specs on the cartridge drawing, and good data as a starting point for reloading, with pressure testing.

We thank Art Alphin for all the good work that went into his reliable A-Square reloading manual: ANY SHOT YOU WANT
 
Posts: 28032 | Location: KY | Registered: 09 December 2001Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of BwanaBob
posted Hide Post
quote:
As Bawanabob confirms Ruger did make no1's in 404. Perhaps he can tell us how it came into his possesion and if it was a new rifle when he aquired it.
Bawana, if you are of the view that such a request is impertinent, then please ignore it.


I bought the rifle new from one of the main gunshops here in Sydney. I wandered in there, one day, and there it was on the shelf so I bought it. It was definitely a new factory rifle, in the box and with all of the usual Ruger paperwork. I've owned a number of Ruger No 1s, over the years, so I know what a new one looks like - it was the real McCoy and not some re-barrel job.

Now that I know how rare they are, I might have to try and talk my mate into selling it back to me!


"White men with their ridiculous civilization lie far from me. No longer need I be a slave to money" (W.D.M Bell)
www.cybersafaris.com.au
 
Posts: 909 | Location: Blackheath, NSW, Australia | Registered: 26 May 2002Reply With Quote
  Powered by Social Strata  
 

Accuratereloading.com    The Accurate Reloading Forums    THE ACCURATE RELOADING.COM FORUMS  Hop To Forum Categories  Rifles  Hop To Forums  Big Bores    How rare is the Ruger #1 in 404 Jeff.

Copyright December 1997-2023 Accuratereloading.com


Visit our on-line store for AR Memorabilia