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My dad is a recoil shy shooter, and I am wanting to purchase him a big bore. He shot my CZ in .416 Rigby ONCE, and even with the added weight of the CZ action and my Vari-X III 4.5-14x50; recoil was too much for him. So now I am looking at a Browning A-Bolt with Boss in .375 H&H, which would be loads lighter than a CZ and come factory with a muzzle brake. Does anyone have any experience with this rifle/caliber combo??? I did notice that Browning offered a screw in replacement for the muzzle brake on the Boss making lower noise when you hunt( Boss-CR). What do y'all think, or have you seen or shot one? BTW, I have heard that some of the Remington H&Hs have some problems with feeding so I was wondering about the Browning. Thanks for any info you can provide. "They who would give up an essential Liberty for Temporary Security, deserves neither Liberty or Security." ---Benjamin Franklin "SIC SEMPER TYRANNUS" | ||
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You might consider the 9.3 X 62 for a recoil shy shooter. Unless the .375 H&H is a quite heavy gun it's got some serious recoil.....and the A-Bolt isn't heavy at all. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Well, Sir, that caliber has always intrigued me but I have a custom .35 Whelen (that I built myself off of a VZ-24 ) that he normally borrows that is within 100 fps with the 250 gr. bullet to the 9.3x62. I noticed where you recommended the new Rem 798 in .375 H&H for a fella's girlfriend. If a "girl" can shoot one---I need to shut up, if Coni Brooks of Barnes can shoot a .500 Nitro, my dad needs to grow some balls. I think the Rem 798, with a brake, would be fine for my dad. Afterall, he is 6'6", and 240 lbs. "They who would give up an essential Liberty for Temporary Security, deserves neither Liberty or Security." ---Benjamin Franklin "SIC SEMPER TYRANNUS" | |||
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I hope you are having him test fire these while standing up? My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost. | |||
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Why????? I routinely shoot my CZ550 in .416 Rigby from the prone position for elk hunting practice. YES, he test fired it standing. BTW, I noticed in the 2006 Remington brochure that the 798 is not offered in .375 H&H, only the XCR. If I have to get a XCR, I'll get a .375 RUM and load it to H&H specs. "They who would give up an essential Liberty for Temporary Security, deserves neither Liberty or Security." ---Benjamin Franklin "SIC SEMPER TYRANNUS" | |||
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That's interesting. The 2006 online catelog shows nothing larger than the 300Wmag for the798. But, their web site shows it under products. http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_r.../model_798_specs.asp As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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Woodsracer- I own a browning .375H&H with Boss and used it to take quite a few African animals. On one Banteng hunt in OZ I carried it 15 miles a day for a week. It will honestly shoot < 1 inch groups, functions flawlessly and flat gets the job done. It has a real mean buisness look about it with the black plastic stock and that Boss really works both to tame recoil(as if a .375 really has any) but more importantly is super at improving accuracy as it,s really a movable barrel tuning weight. The trigger is pretty good after a little tuning too. You won't go wrong with one. The only flaw is the Browning actions are not much use for anything else and easily tweaked if you ever try and remove it,so your pretty much stuck with it as as.-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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I just got that catalog and noticed it stopped at .300 Win.Mag. --- ? As for the Browning: That was the rifle I almost bought for me; and the one I came here to this Forum to start asking questions about. I still think it's a beautiful rifle, and somtimes wish I'd gotten it. But, I figured it was TOO nice to bash up in the great outdoors and TOO powerful to be a 'bench' gun at the range. I hope your Dad likes it. Show us some pix if he gets it. ____________________________________________ Did I mention, "I REALLY LIKE GUNS"? "...I don't care what you decide or how much you pay for it..." Former FFL Dealer NAHC Life Member NRA Endowment/Life Member Remington Society of America Member Hunter in Training | |||
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My wife's uncle has an A-bolt just like that. Recoil is very minor - less than a 30-06 shooting 180's in my opinion. Definitely far less than my 45-70, anyway. Anyone could shoot that rifle. It shot very well for me, and he has used it very successfully several times in the arctic and Africa. ============================== "I'd love to be the one to disappoint you when I don't fall down" --Fred Durst | |||
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The Boss with recoil brake, should reduce the felt recoil by at least 40%. Makes practice at the range easier. I recommend hearing protection in the field or closing the brake off with a piece of curved spring steel, to save your dads hearing. Good luck. | |||
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I'll probably get one of THESE instead of using a piece of spring steel. "They who would give up an essential Liberty for Temporary Security, deserves neither Liberty or Security." ---Benjamin Franklin "SIC SEMPER TYRANNUS" | |||
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Nice. Makes things simple. | |||
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Yeah, I thought it was cool too!!! "They who would give up an essential Liberty for Temporary Security, deserves neither Liberty or Security." ---Benjamin Franklin "SIC SEMPER TYRANNUS" | |||
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I have a Browning BAR MkII Safari / 7mm Rem.Mag. with B.O.S.S. & the C.R. accessory. In this gas-operated autoloader, I didn't notice much recoil between the two parts. I did notice a little extra noise with the 'muzzle brake' attachment vs. the closed "Conventional Recoil" attachment. I bought the C.R. part mostly for theoretical and aesthetic purposes... It's the only rifle I have with a system like this. It IS accurate...shooting what I WANT it to be accurate with. And, that's the point. ____________________________________________ Did I mention, "I REALLY LIKE GUNS"? "...I don't care what you decide or how much you pay for it..." Former FFL Dealer NAHC Life Member NRA Endowment/Life Member Remington Society of America Member Hunter in Training | |||
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If you do get the A-bolt, I recommend putting one of the Limbsaver recoil pads on it....the browning SS I have had a lousy pad from the factory. A cheap home upgrade that's well worth it in comfort, IMO, especially on a stock that's small and narrow for a big bore. Happy shooting! Dan | |||
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She had it waaaay downloaded and it took a whole bunch of shots to bring and elephant down with it. Did they forget to print that in the reloading manual? | |||
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2 things Browning is still offering the a bolt in 375. with the boss system you get the cr also at no charge on all rifles manufactured since at least 1999 NRA Life Member, ILL Rifle Assoc Life Member, Navy | |||
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I had a Browning A-Bolt 375H&H for a brief period of time (before I became a Pre-64 M70 addict). I found it difficult to top load and that concerns me for a rifle to be used in DG country. Also, I prefer CRF, even though it will probably never be an issue for most of us "part time" hunters. Tim | |||
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This will not be helpful in any way, but I can't help myself. I can't imagine an uglier, more miserable rifle than an A-bolt with a dang shower head on the end of it. | |||
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Insensitive...but true. ______________________________ "Truth is the daughter of time." Francis Bacon | |||
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I didn't want to be the first to say it. Tim | |||
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Shhhhhhhhh!!! Daniel, I did notice that she had it downloaded.........my dad is not as Big Bore saavy, shall we say, and I was going to show him the pics in my manual to help with his "mental" comfort level. "They who would give up an essential Liberty for Temporary Security, deserves neither Liberty or Security." ---Benjamin Franklin "SIC SEMPER TYRANNUS" | |||
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Cute pic of your wife in your avatar!!! Jest Pokin' bak. "They who would give up an essential Liberty for Temporary Security, deserves neither Liberty or Security." ---Benjamin Franklin "SIC SEMPER TYRANNUS" | |||
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The only post here with any meat in it. If your dad has shot a 300 Winchester Magnum, with heavily loaded 220 grainers, then he will have a feel for the recoil, with the brake on. Tell him to stand in front of everyone in the hunting party, so no one besides himself, gets deafoned by the shots. Way in front! I have a left-handed, stainless, A-bolt, in 375, and love it. It's not CRF, so consider that also. Roger QSL | |||
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Well its far from the prettiest gun out there, I'll agree with that. But accurate, handy, reliable and light it's all of those too. Deadly gun! The .375 aGAINST WITH OTHERS SHOULD BE MEASURED IMHO.-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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I will state, that my set-up, as described in this thread does not kick all that much with 300 grain bullets. Credit is given to a great stock design (Echols Legend), premium recoil pad (Decellerator), and weight (pushing 10 lbs). With the 375 H&H, I have also noticed that loads with heavier bullets at moderate velocities have less perceived recoil than lighter bullets at higher velocities. If you are going to carry a big stick, you've got to whack someone with it at least every once in while. | |||
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