I got my 458 Lott today and took it to the range
and fired a couple shots. Thats one sweet rifle.
Its the CZ 458 Lott Safari Magnum.

Congratulations,

That is a fine cartridge.

it and the 416 Rigby are the two best, IMHO, for all dangerous game...in a boltgun. Anything bigger and the recoil can be...ummmmmm...shall we say, "disconcerting"?

Rich
DRSS

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Anything bigger and the recoil can be...ummmmmm...shall we say, "disconcerting"?

Rich
DRSS

shhhs, don't tell jeffe!!

jro45,

Yep, the 458 Lott is a great cartridge You can load from mild to fairly heavy and have a "blast" doing it! Rem 405s are cheap and good practice/varmint bullets and then load the 500grs heavy for DG or those pesky quarry rocks.

My RSM 458 Lott is one of my favorite rifles. I usually shoot a couple of hundred rounds a year at charging DG ground squirrels with it (405 Rems w/ 70 gr R-7) and also enjoy busting rocks with the 500gr full loads.

I don't have a "more fun" rifle in my collection, and the Lott would be one of the very last to go if I ever had to choose...

I haven't been to Africa yet so I have to soothe my jones by using DG rifles on varmints and rocks

Great choice of cartridge and enjoy it!

John

JKS,we're in the same boat! Do you prefer the RSM Lott over the CZ? Do you use a scope,if so which?I have a Lott on order and plan on buying one to play around with in the near future.I have already started buying the bullets,cases,etc...

Here is my "fun" load that I have shot hundreds of in my Lott. Great for prctice and for critters state side.

405gr Remmy
68.0gr IMR 4895
215 Fed. primer
3.53" OAL
Hornady case
2112fps

Will punch through 200+lb hogs, side to side.

Keith

Thanks for that load,-i'm gonna try it on some hogs we have here in East Texas. I have been using full throttle loads in my RSM, for just about everything, deer too. 84grs.4320 and the 500grn. woodleigh or hornady. That gives it the 2300fps as top-end. Of course I've gone 85grs. for 2330fps, but backed down a while back because of the hornady bullets are a little longer to the cannelure than the woodleighs.

walksfar,would 84grs of 4320 work for 500grain A-Frames?

A little long from the bottom of bullet to cannelure on these-might have to drop a few grains to make them seat to cannelure.
The only ones I have found to remotely work with the original Jack Lott load(which this is), are the traditional bullets, like the Hornady original(not the brass looking ones), or the woodleigh.
I've never loaded a-frames, but examining the photo on midway of them, it looks like it may require dropping a couple or three grains to get the cannelure crimped in, which is an absolute must when feeding from a magazine on these, as the bullet may work out or in during recoil.

Thanks!

walksfar,

I use the 83gr 4320 500gr load for my rock busting fun load. My 405 Rem 70gr RL-7 load gives me a cheap and fun load that is IMO 80-90% the recoil of the full load. This load is spectacular on small varmints and still gives me the "big bore" experience.

John

This sounds a lot like myself. I do not have reservations against shooting my big bores at smaller animals. Pests, and varmints, and hogs(especially), deer, etc. I'm like you are.
Simply put, I can't get back to Africa now, due to complications in the family, so this gives me an excuse to load up my big bores and get some good practice in, for when the time does come when I can have some free time to live the dream again. That, and heck, I just love big-bores. Even if I never did go back. That, and I'm getting older and lazier, so that last thing about never going back, may be a sad reality. There is one good thing though,-I can go out and shoot armadillo's, and not pay a tropy fee, and still have my remote control in my hands at night-time!!!
Also, if anyone here has ever shot an east texas armadillo, then you know it takes a big-bore to do it right. I've put up to 3 rounds of 5.45x39's through one, only to have it run under the house to die, and me have to crawl under there and drag it out. I guess it had Mbogo syndrome.

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if anyone here has ever shot an east texas armadillo, then you know it takes a big-bore to do it right.

Yep, I have used my Lott on 'dillers, copperheads, hogs, and tons of DWJs(dangerous water jugs).

Keith

It do! and to add to the sport try taking a head shot on a going away Armadillo, thats a tough one!

I can shoot good groups with a Lott, I can handle the recoil, but everytime I shoot it I have to say to myself, "It won't hurt you its just anothe rifle and don't flinch, please don't flinch", then sometimes after that I say "Oh s--t, this is going to kick the crap out of me!" therefore I shoot the .40 caliber big bores and don't have convince myself that I am about to get the snot knocked out of me!!!

The Lott is about my tolerance, but I am a bit long in the tooth, aches and pains in my neck and shoulders from shooting big bores and my other phyical interests have taken a toll, so the really big bores are out. BTW, they were never needed anyway. I think I would still be writting this if I had never shot anthing but my .375 and the same trophies would be hanging on my wall.. maybe.

The recoil doesn't bother me. On the bench I use a sandbag over my shoulder to butt my rifle against. Standing the Lott is balanced and shooting standing is no problem. I really like this rifle shooting is even better. I shoot the 500gr bullets at 2300 FPS.

Gentlemen,

I used to own a lott, in a model 70 CFR action however, I sold the rifle and have now replaced it with a 416 Rigby. Once again I'm getting that .458 caliber bug again. My only question I have with the Lott is 2300 fps fast or should I say adequate enough with 500 grain bullets. Would like to hear you're thoughts on velocity of the Lott.

Steve

Steve

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Originally posted by Steve Lefforge:
Gentlemen,

I used to own a lott, in a model 70 CFR action however, I sold the rifle and have now replaced it with a 416 Rigby. Once again I'm getting that .458 caliber bug again. My only question I have with the Lott is 2300 fps fast or should I say adequate enough with 500 grain bullets. Would like to hear you're thoughts on velocity of the Lott.

Steve

Steve

By at least 150+fps.

Keith

,.,.,Well I may as well raise some blood pressure... ..Congratulations on your new BOOMER.. .I have one just like it..and I don,t doubt it is one of the best of the big bores.,.,However the 350 gr Barnes XFB is probably IMNHO..the best bullet in it for everything execpt Elephant, and probably rhino....It will leave the muzzel at 2700 fps and it really is quite a bullet..........Boots you less also...Have fun with your new rifle ..shoot it often and you will be able to shoot it well.....

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
It do! and to add to the sport try taking a head shot on a going away Armadillo, thats a tough one!

LOL!!! Try a Texas heart shot on a going away armadillo

I don't like to shoot my Lott @ 2300fps. I shoot it much better @ 2150 and it meets the age old standard of the .45 nitro express ctgs. Dr.C

I loaded my lott shells with IMR4320 85 grs and a Hornady 500 gr RN. Shot them thru my conagraph
and the velocity was 2266 Ave. FPS. I thought they were suppose to go 2330 with that load. My lott has a 24" barrel. Suprize!!!

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Originally posted by jro45:
I loaded my lott shells with IMR4320 85 grs and a Hornady 500 gr RN. Shot them thru my conagraph
and the velocity was 2266 Ave. FPS. I thought they were suppose to go 2330 with that load. My lott has a 24" barrel. Suprize!!!

I nave only gone as high as 84gr of IMR-4320. Got 2255fps from a 24". I guess there is quite some difference in lots of 4320.

Keith

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Originally posted by Hog Killer:

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Originally posted by jro45:
I loaded my lott shells with IMR4320 85 grs and a Hornady 500 gr RN. Shot them thru my conagraph
and the velocity was 2266 Ave. FPS. I thought they were suppose to go 2330 with that load. My lott has a 24" barrel. Suprize!!!

I nave only gone as high as 84gr of IMR-4320. Got 2255fps from a 24". I guess there is quite some difference in lots of 4320.

Keith

..... ........There are differences in lots of things with different rifles and loads........Also did you correct for true muzzel velocity or is that the vel @ 15 ft. or so.... My CZ Lott has the 25 " barrel I think it is and gives about 2290 fps with factory Lott ,Hornady ammo.......