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Leupold VX-5 2-10x42 Leupold VX=6 2-12x42 Swarovski Z6 1.7-10x42 Trijicon Huron 2.5-10x40 This is the range I am looking for. I am thinking hardest about the Leupold VX-5 2-10x42 even though it isn't the cheapest, but I reckon that it will be more 416 recoil resistant than the others. Is there another 1/2 to 10 range scope that would be a better option? | ||
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Leupold 4x compact worked fine on my 416 RM out to extended ranges 5" eye relief and sturdy. Currently using Nikon Monarch 1.5-4.5x20mm.  | |||
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I use the Leupold 2.5 x 8 and it works great. Guns and hunting | |||
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I have that Swaro on mine. | |||
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I have the Trijicon 1.5x4 on mine. But it's the Rigby version. Post with illuminated triangle. | |||
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Luepold 1.5-5 on mine bit mine is a 416 Taylor. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Of the options you gave, I would go with the Leupold VX-5 HD 2x10. If I were suggesting this is one time where I would look at a Leupold VX 6 1-6. I like the fire dot. | |||
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Word of caution on the Trijicon Huron scopes - I was looking for a new scope for a 30-06 I just put together and figured I'd take a look at them. While the build quality and optics are impressive for the price, the eye relief is WAAAY short. I read the specs and didn't believe it until I tried it in person. No way I'd put that on an '06, let alone a bigger boomer than that. I really wanted to try them, but I'm not getting nailed in the forehead to do it. Of the optics you listed, I'd go with either of the Leupolds. The olde tyme 1.5-5 is hard to beat, though. That's what my 416 currently wears. _____________________________________________________ No safe queens! | |||
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I mounted a 3X9 Ziess Conquest on my .416 Rem and Rigby and both have served me extremely well. Used the Remington in the Selous on Buff without a hitch. Good Shooting. phurley | |||
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I built a Mod 70 416 Rem with a VX6 2X12 X 42 on mine in Tally detachables. Also a VX6 1X6 X 24 in Tally detachables as a back up. I really like the VX6 2X12 (Illuminated) . Took Kudu at 250 yda, Zebra ar 100 yds, bush pig at 30 yds. Could have shot any number of Cape Buffalo from 50-200 yds easy. When I put that rifle together the VX 5 2X10X 42 was not available. If I were to do it again today I would go that route and save a few $$; 2X10X42 Illum. or a Meopta R2 1.7 X 10 X42 Illum. All versatile combinations. | |||
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The Trijicon Accupoint is the one you want. Not the Huron. Nice thing about it is the dual illumination. No batteries to wear out. Fiber optic illuminated in the day, Tritium illuminated in darker conditions. This reticle makes for fast shooting with both eyes open up close and personal. Use the very tip of the triangle for more precise placement at longer distances. Perfect for a gun like a 416.  | |||
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I think you're in the right range. I now have a Leupold VX-3i 3.5-10x40 mm scope with a duplex reticle on my .416 Rem. Mag. That makes it quite versatile, IMHO. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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 my 416 REM has a Skinner aperture sight but my 375 H&H wears a Trijicon 1-4 with the green post. It is everything the above writer said. I think it is a perfect dangerous game scope.USMC Retired DSC Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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I actually have a 2-8 or something 1 inch Kahles. But I don't have a 1 inch Blaser mount, and I have multiple 30mm excess mounts. I am pretty sure I had that 2-8 on my M70 375 that I owned, but it has been over 7 years. | |||
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Seth, I don't see any reason for 10 power on a 416 nor do I think you need the lowest power variable. I'm pretty much convince the 2.5x8 Leupold is just perfect for 375 or 416 if you plan to use the rifle for everything. If you are thinking mostly DG I'm a low power variable Trijicon fan. That no electric post reticle is the bomb. I have the amber and the red. I like the amber the best. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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Thanks Mark! | |||
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I used to have a 1X??? maybe 4 or 5 on mine. As I have gotten older, This just didn't do it for me any longer. I went with the Swarovski 1.7 X 10. I love it. Wish I would have done it years ago. | |||
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I have done what Larry has done. Love it... | |||
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Ross and Larry, Thanks, I think most people see it as a classic decision of the 1-4 or 1-5. I really like more magnification on the top end. I can't see giving up much at 2x over 1x at nose kicking range. Handcapping it and not being able to see something when you need 10x. | |||
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The issue has been scope size. These newer high mod range scopes 2x12; 2x10, 3x18, 4.5x14 are no bigger than a 3x9 scope of old. Scopes have come a long way since 1995 even. | |||
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Bingo | |||
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Used my 416 RM / Leupold fixed 4x with hold-over estimated to down an Elk at about 400 yards. Elk kill zone & the like is big enough proved to myself it can be done. Higher magnification variable scope is nice but heavier/bulkier to pack around.  Nikon Monarch3 1-4x20mm / 100m target board  | |||
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I use the Swaro Z6i in 1-6 on my .416 and don't think you could get a better scope for that caliber. I use an identical scope on my light rifle (only not illuminated), if that says anything about how much I like that scope. The beauty of the Z6i 1X6 is it's plenty of magnification for any reasonable range with a .416 and I've made shots at or over 300 yards with mine. And, perhaps more importantly, and I disagree with some on here about not needing a true one power, when you are in the thick stuff tracking, whether anything was wounded or not, crank it down to one power and turn on the lights. You have a red-dot. That is faster than irons with a detachable scope. Has given me a lot of comfort when tracking lion and buffalo. | |||
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None of which were wounded by the way. | |||
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Yep, that one power with the lighted reticle when going into the thick stuff after DG, as Mark said, "is the bomb"!! | |||
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I don’t know why anyone would want a big bodied 10x or greater power scope on a .416. Swarovski, Zeiss and Schmidt & Bender all make a 1X-4, 1x-6, and 1X-8. Having a true one power scope that you can shoot with both eyes open is a big advantage and a red dot makes them about the ultimate . I am a Schmidt & Bender fan and have never had a S&B fail. I use the S&B 1.1-4 Flash Dot 7 on my .416 . I wouldn’t hesitate to purchase a used S&B if the scope doesn’t look like it has been abused . | |||
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okay, i'll say it ... the 416 isn't a heavy big bore .. i like a 2x7 on mine .. as long as there is eye relief .. which is the most critical factor for me. opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I can not shoot with both eyes open. I am right handed and left eye dominant. I can not shoot left handed. | |||
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Should've mentioned earlier, but one scope I tried to locate but couldn't at the time is the now-discontinued Leupold 1.75-6x32. I could grumble for a few pages on the fact they jettisoned it from the lineup, but it's probably one of the best all-around scopes they ever made. Along with the 2.5-8, you could put those on everything from a DG rifle to a varmint gun and be in pretty good shape. They also keep the form factor small and have great eye relief. Maybe give a quick search and see if you can find one. Since my original search, I've actually seen new ones in the box for sale at reasonable prices. _____________________________________________________ No safe queens! | |||
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Agree with Jeffe, the .416 isn't a heavy. In years past it would be considered a medium bore and that's how I think of it. It just works for everything, shoots as far as I want to and I don't need more than 6 power to do any of that. And I like a true one power illuminated because I do shoot with both eyes open. | |||
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Then you should check out the S&B Zenith 1.5-6X42MM my favorite all around scope out to 300 yds plus great for those up close shots, and dusk and dawn shooting . The Leupold 2.5-8x36 is a solid scope and has been always a go to scope. Both of those two brands/models have proven to be rugged and reliable with hard use. | |||
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I have long wondered, in that situation, say you are shooting someone else's rifle, did you notice a parallax issue? opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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10x is not too much on any rifle up to .416 bore these days, given the enormous advances in optics over the past few years. I find a big advantage with a 10x scope, as compared with a 6x, even at 100 yards. Maybe it's just my aging eyeballs, but I don't think so. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Check the eye relief on the scope. High power scopes are often shorter eye relief. I like 4" of eye relief on a big bore scope as I am kind of a stock crawler. IHMSA BC Provincial Champion and Perfect 40 Score, Unlimited Category, AAA Class. | |||
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That's interesting Mike. I can only think of one scope I own that goes to 10 power at the moment. I really don't like big objectives because the scope gets too high, which creates a whole myriad of issues from cant to not getting a good cheek weld. | |||
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Brian raises a great point on eye relief, especially if you might shoot prone or nearly so. Only time I've ever been cut was sight in in the Selous of my backup .375, laying over the hood of the gari. Rifle was a bit too short for me and PH called the shot good, but I said I wanted another, so I wiped the blood out of my eye and made an even better shot -- holding back a bit so I didn't get cut again. You may need more eye relief in field positions than you need from the bench on the range. | |||
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Sufficient eye relief is, of course, important, and can be had on any quality scope these days. 3.5 inches or so is plenty for me, even for a big bore. Proper length of pull eliminates stock crawling. My low range variables go on my .458 and .500 caliber bolt rifles. In my view and experience, a .416 is far closer to a .375 than a true big bore. That cuts both ways. A .416 can be a PG rifle, where higher magnification in a scope can be useful, if not game-changing. Or it can be a DG rifle, where the lower end of the range, or no scope at all, may be preferred. My Leupold rides my .416 Rem. Mag. in Talley QD rings. The rifle has serviceable and zeroed iron sights, too. If follow up at close quarters were needed, the scope would come off. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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I used to do that -- detach scope when it got close -- and still have working irons on the rifle, but with my old eyes, I really prefer going to 1 power and the red dot. Each of us have our preferences. Do what works for you. | |||
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1-6x Accupoint is what I would get. I have a 1.5-5 Leupold on my 404J and a 1.75-5 Burris on my 458. If I was buying today, I'd get the 1-6x Accupoint. I have a 1.5-6x42 and 2.5-10x42 Zeiss Victory for my 375 H&H. "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | |||
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