Who has shot both and how much more is the recoil of the 460 weatherby. I just recieved a lott and noticed it kicks a noticable difference betweem my 458 win mag 416 rem mag and 375 rum. I caqn handle the lott ok but after 6 shots I loose intrest in wanting more. Am I being a wimp or what??

Felt recoil can be different for all of us. I have shot factory .458 Lott and the .460 Weatherby (no muzzle brakes). The .460 Weatherby goes to another planet over the Lott in felt recoil for me. While I'm at it, the .378 Weatherby ranks right up there in felt recoil! Give a lot of thought before scoping the rifle!!

Depends on the kind of rifle. I owned a Ruger #1 in .458 Win and it was worse than my current Mark V in .378 Wby. It felt like I had a concussion after 10 rounds.

I will never own another Ruger #1 or #3 again in large calibers. Too light.

What kind of rifle is the Lott? The type of rifle used has bearing on what can be done to alleviate the beating you take.

My Ruger #1 in 458 Lott kicks harder than my Ruger M77 458 Lott. Both of my 460 weatherbys kick a substantual amount above the 458 Lott. Yuo are looking at another 1800 to 2300 ft.lbs of energy with the 460. Depending on what ammo you are using. Thats a lot of difference.

Don't feel bad, the 458 Lott is my limit in big bores also. I have a 12 lb custom with two mercury tubes in the stock and a muzzle break, and it still rocks me from the bench.

My 375 H&H and 458 Win Mag Ruger 77 are pussycats comapred to the Lott. My 416 Rem Mag is more than the 458, but still alot less than my Lott.

It does smack with authority on both ends..

Regards Jim P.

I've shot both the Lott and 460 off of an unbraked CZ 550. There is a BIG difference between the two, especially when you start using the 600 grain bullets. You're not a wimp! But beware, the 460 will wear you down much more quickly.

My 458 lott is in a cz 550. I could handle more I just don't know at this point how accurate. I have always wanted to get a 460 someday and will do my best to work up to it. But was surprised how much more the lott was than my 458 win mag.

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Originally posted by msorenso:
My 458 lott is in a cz 550.

Holy chit, then you definitely don't want to shoot a Ruger RSM!! I've shot the CZ and the RSM 458 Lotts side by side, and the greater surface area of the CZ buttpad makes a huge difference!! The RSM felt like somebody was punching me with the edge of a 2x4, while the CZ felt more like a shove. Granted, a heavy, forceful shove, but much more tolerable than the RSM. Also, both were shot standing up. I can handle the CZ off the bench, but 1 shot from the bench with the RSM was all I wanted!!

If you're keeping the CZ, then go ahead and put a recoil reducer or two in the buttstock and put some weight up front in the fore arm of the stock to balance it out by using tungsten rods. The added combined weight of a pound or so will help in soaking up recoil. BTW, glass them in place and also glass the rifle too. I don't know how easy it is to get tungsten rods anymore as it's been quite a few years since I've done that.

If you want somethign bigger than a Lott, get a bigger bore size, not just a bigger powder bottle.

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Keith

Your not a wimp, most folks can't handle a 458 Lott. It and larger guns produce signifigant levels of recoil. Levels of recoil that require either heavy guns, muzzle breaks or abreviated shooting sessions.

I've never shot a 460, but do have a 500 Jeffrey. I haven't fired the 458 and 500 side by side, but to me, while the 500 burning 100 grs of powder to push 600 gr @ 2200 fps had signifigantly more recoil, and moved me back more, the 458 lott was more unpleasant to shoot.

Paul,
I second that. A lot of my bigger guns do not recoil nearly as sharp as full house loads in my Ruger # 1 in 458 Lott.

Never fired the .460 Weatherby, but from all I've heard "violent" is probably the best way to describe it's recoil. If you're not well versed in shooting the real heavies I'd bet you'll be miserable shooting more than a couple rounds in a session.

I have a Ruger #1 in .375 H&H and a Weatherby Deluxe in .460. I like them both. However, the Ruger has the engineering and stockwork of a neolithic club. This is mostly why it's tougher to shoot than the .460 is with the brake installed.

The point being - The Weatherby has a proper stock, is a heavier rifle, and has a very efficient brake design. If you're really serious about a big gun then build it right and forget about the recoil. Load it hot and practice often. You should be able to shoot 20 rounds of 500's in a visit to the range without pummeling youself.

New Guy 460 common sense tip: grip the beast tightly but never grip the cheek piece with your face. Let the rifle slide by your face. If you don't you will knock yourself silly after a couple rounds.

I don't like the 460 for practice.. it kicks too hard too fast in an unbraked and useful weight rifle.

Notice - imho, hunting rifles aren't braked, and certainly not in the field

but, a nice 550 express, at 11# is a double thing, with a 700gr bullet at 2150, it will core drill a herd of anything!

jeffe