Anyone here who knows about the lenght of an cartridge in caliber .500 Jeffery (12,7x70 Shuler) loaded with 535 grains Woodleigh bullets?

Do that cartridge fit in a original mauser 98 if we talk only about lenght and not about feeding?

Regards
Kalle

Kalle:

You should post this same question on the "Big Bore" and "Reloading" forums.

There has been lots of discussion in the past on those forums concerning this cartridge.

Also, you might consider contacting Geoff McDonald at woodleigh for an answer and reloading suggestions. http://www.woodleighbullets.com.au

Good Luck.

RCG

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Canuck

According to the A-square manual the COL is 3.465" brass is 2.756". Yes, it can be fit into a Mauser 98. Getting a 500J to feed in any bolt action is a bit of work I built mine on a P-17 enfield, there is no advantage in using a smaller lighter action in a 50 caliber rifle

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Originally posted by Paul H:
According to the A-square manual the COL is 3.465" brass is 2.756". Yes, it can be fit into a Mauser 98. Getting a 500J to feed in any bolt action is a bit of work I built mine on a P-17 enfield, there is no advantage in using a smaller lighter action in a 50 caliber rifle

Does a bigger action for the .500 J give it a little more margin for error, I mean is the m98 stretching the friendship ??

Would a magnum mauser action be safer ??

I have little understanding of these things other than I would assume that the bigger action around the big round of the .500 J would make for a safer arrangement in the event of an over load or whatever.

PC,

My thought is primarily towards the Jeffrey needing to be completed as a 10-11# rifle. As such, it makes little sense to use a borderline small action and add lead to the stock, vs using a larger/heavier action. While not the longest of rounds, the 500J is a big round.

Although a 500 Jefferys can easily be made in a Mod. 98 Mauser by a skilled smith, I agree with Paul, you need the extra weight of a magnum action or an Enfield...I want a Jefferys to weigh at least 10.5 lbs and more is better...

For a m-98 or M-70 my limit is the 404 Jefferys, anything larger goes to the big Magnum Mausers...

Thank´s for your help. I do agree in that I gonna to need more weight on that rifle. How is the strenght on a Mauser 98 compared to a CZ550?

That's a loaded question, as mauser 98's were built over a nearly 50 year period, during two major wars and in various armories. If you stick with original CIP spec loads, I'd go out on a limb and say a well contructed 98 in good condition has sufficient strength for the 500J. If you want to load it up to 500 A-sq levels, then by all means go with a modern action.

It is a very expensive project to have done properly, the donor action is but a fraction of the cost. I just can't see the Mauser being the right starting point for such a project.

As Ray said, 404 and mauser 98 go together like M-bogo and tall grass

length is 3.60 spec oal.

i've built mine on enfields.. and it's a super hardcore b- to get to feed, in any stacked mag... a single stack would be the only way in a mauser. it only took me a long A while to get to feed from a staggered mag.

i wouldnt do another 500 jeffe.. especilly on a mauser that could not possibly do a stack mag.

jeffe

Here's a pic I've posted a couple times of a 500Jeff made on a standard length 98 Mauser by WaffenfabrikHein. Absolutely stunning rifle. I believe they used one of Blackburn's magazines designed for the Jeff to ensure proper feeding.

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OK Alf, who built it ?

roflmao!

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Alf: This rifle was built by a back yard small time gunsmith friend

Often the best kind. Nice rifle!

Jeffe,
Mauser never had any trouble making a Mauser feed from a stacked magazine..Maybe it depends on the gunsmith, Holland and Holland, Rigby and a host of old Germans could make a 500 feed in a Mauser...Several RSA gunsmiths are makeing 500 Jeffereys on M-98s today...and they seem to work...Dennis Olson in Montana could make one feed...

Mostly I have found the secret is in the right size box and the internal releif cut of the magazine box, which is mostly omitted by gunsmiths these days, also the addition of the little kicker knob on the follower.....

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