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10 October 2007, 22:28
Overkill from sweden
Magazine capacity in different calibers
How many rounds does a .585 nyati take? is it 3?
2 down and one up?
how about the .600 OK?
I know that it depends on what action the rifle have.. but it cant be a big difference in that large calibers?
How about the .458 Lott? and the different .500 calibers??
I think that it is important when hunting dangerous game that you can have as many rounds as possible..
//OK
10 October 2007, 22:55
Bent Fossdal
Well, you know, that REALLY depends on what action you build on, and what magazine you choose.


Bent Fossdal
Reiso
5685 Uggdal
Norway

10 October 2007, 22:58
JefferyDenmark
The Heym Express is KING.
4+1 .500 Jeffery, 7+1 .375 H&H. Eeker They even make them in .600 NE.

And this is without Rigby style magazine. Eeker

Cheers,

André


Always always use enough... GUN & KNIFE

11 October 2007, 04:17
Robgunbuilder
I converted my NYATI to Beltfed. That way I know I will never run out of ammo when a ele herd attcks me.-Rob


Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
11 October 2007, 04:20
RIP
Hallelujah!!!

Overkill is back!!!

I believe OK was the inspiration for the naming of RGB's 600 Overkill.

Now let's see if the cumulative membership of "sumbuddy who know" can answer the question!!!

OK, my 2 cents, FWIW:

Most CZ 550's in .375 H&H will hold 6 cartridges down in the box, though the factory advertises only 5-down.

That same action will usually hold 5-down in .458 Lott, sometimes 6-down.

That same action will hold 4-down in 404 Jeffery, perfect factory box for this match, or .375 RUM.

That same action will "sometimes" hold 4-down in .416 Rigby, though the factory advertises only 3-down.

That same action will hold only 3-down in .505 Gibbs, with no room to spare.

The SIGARMS Prechtl-actioned M98 Magnum holds 4-down in 450 Dakota. Yes it does have a pocket-plate floor plate.

Ye Olde Pre-64 Winchester M70 was designed on purpose to hold 4-down of .375 H&H with no drop-box or pocket-plate tricks, just a "Mauser Cosine Law" perfect box is used with a sleek and trim stock belly contour.

.585 Nyati: That is best done with a straight vertical stack/in-line-feed, so the limit is only how long do you want the banana clip to be???

Hope this helps some.

Welcome back. wave
11 October 2007, 04:20
jeffeosso
OK...
why would you even consider anything but a .600 OK?
just wondering


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
11 October 2007, 04:28
tom`
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
OK...
why would you even consider anything but a .600 OK?
just wondering


The ammo is heavy if you don't have a gun bearer.

Cool
11 October 2007, 12:14
Overkill from sweden
quote:
OK...
why would you even consider anything but a .600 OK?
just wondering


Because I want to have as many rounds as possible in the magazine when hunting DG as brown bear..
I have used my .460 wby ( it will only take 3 rounds 2 down and one up) And sometimes it feels like it is not enough.. when I hunt moose it is some times possible to shot 2 at the same time and if they are running fast then it is just not enough.
I think it is better for DG to have lets say 6 .458 Lott ready than only 3 .600 OK..
i would feel much more safe with the 6 shot lott!
//OK
11 October 2007, 17:03
trophyhunter5000
Unless you are on some sort of culling operation anything above three rounds is not going to help much...

There is a diminishing return on number of rounds fired...

The first is the most important...


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11 October 2007, 17:27
jro45
On my CZ 550 American Safari Lott, it can hold 6 rounds easely
11 October 2007, 19:32
buffalo
quote:
Originally posted by JefferyDenmark:
The Heym Express is KING.
4+1 .500 Jeffery, 7+1 .375 H&H. Eeker They even make them in .600 NE.

And this is without Rigby style magazine. Eeker

Cheers,

André


I have a Hansen M-78 in 577 Tyrannosaur - it takes 4 down and one up Smiler
You can see the action at http://www.magnumhansen.com/laaskasser.htm
(bottom)

Regards
Ulrik Hentzer
11 October 2007, 19:52
MJines
CZ's are great for magazine capacity. Mine hold six Win Mag's/Lott's down and one up the spout. Nice to know you can throw a bunch of lead if you need to.


Mike
11 October 2007, 20:10
trophyhunter5000
My Marlin 1895 CB holds 10 rounds of 45-70 (9+1) Wink


______________________
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11 October 2007, 21:29
Overkill from sweden
Buffalo!
You got PM!
//OK
11 October 2007, 21:35
Overkill from sweden
Buffalo!
Please send me an e-mail insted of a PM.
robepoika@home.se

//Regards OK
11 October 2007, 21:40
Tailgunner
Well, you could always get one of them Russian rifles that takes a 5 round enbloc clip (rapid reloading) and fires the 14.5x114. That ought to ge enough firepower for bear, esp with the various projectles that are available. Roll Eyes
11 October 2007, 23:41
Robgunbuilder
Overkill- I can understand your fear of the charging Sweedish Mooses! A terrifying sight to behold indeed! I too would be terrified of them and would want to have as many rounds in my gun as possible. However, I feel that I must remind you that a .458 lott is not OVERKILL even on a moose. You need to do pennance. Sit down and bang your head on the ground three times! Take a Advil and swear on the book of gun values that you will never think this way again!-Rob


Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
12 October 2007, 12:16
Overkill from sweden
quote:
I feel that I must remind you that a .458 lott is not OVERKILL even on a moose. You need to do pennance. Sit down and bang your head on the ground three times! Take a Advil and swear on the book of gun values that you will never think this way again!-Rob


HA HA HA ok I promise not to think that way again... Big Grin
And I am not afraid for a swedish moose or the biggest alaska moose. But It is good to have a good magazine capacity when they are running and you may miss with your first shot or with the second. I shot them at 150+ yards when they a running sometimes.

But the brown bear is another animal.. I think you are right that the .458lott is not a real overkill for them Wink

If I ever want to have another rifle than my .460 it will start with .585 Nyati to .600 Overkill or maybe the .577 Tyrannosuar Big Grin
14 October 2007, 16:12
Paolo9,5x73
That Heym Express is Gargantuan. Chambering that in .375H&H is almost as bad as pre-64 Mod. 70 in .22 Hornet! Wink
14 October 2007, 16:53
tom`
quote:
Originally posted by Paolo9,5x73:
That Heym Express is Gargantuan. Chambering that in .375H&H is almost as bad as pre-64 Mod. 70 in .22 Hornet! Wink


Could be appropriate in .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer.
14 October 2007, 21:38
JefferyDenmark
quote:
Originally posted by Paolo9,5x73:
That Heym Express is Gargantuan. Chambering that in .375H&H is almost as bad as pre-64 Mod. 70 in .22 Hornet! Wink


True
They also make the Express light in .375 H&H.
The Heym Express is a very BIG rifle and it only feels right in the BIG calibers .416 andf above.
Heym does sell the actions for projects, they are however expensive. I think they are a goos alternative to any magnum Mauser from others makers. The magazine is wide and well suited for those BIG cartridges.

Cheers,

André


Always always use enough... GUN & KNIFE

14 October 2007, 21:51
mr rigby
I get 5 + 1 in my 404 Jeffery Mauser and in the same magazine 6+ 1 of 358 Norma cases, so therers room and confidence in that magazine enough to handle most situations i will encounter.
18 October 2007, 05:22
xm15e2m4
I get 4+1 in my CZ 416 Rigby.


I follow Rule #62.
20 October 2007, 07:49
Robgunbuilder
I only need 1 600ok! More is simply a load I carry!-Rob


Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
20 October 2007, 07:54
Macifej
quote:
Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
I only need 1 600ok! More is simply a load I carry!-Rob


Roger That! Cool