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Magazine capacity in different calibers
10 October 2007, 22:28
Overkill from swedenMagazine capacity in different calibers
How many rounds does a .585 nyati take? is it 3?
2 down and one up?
how about the .600 OK?
I know that it depends on what action the rifle have.. but it cant be a big difference in that large calibers?
How about the .458 Lott? and the different .500 calibers??
I think that it is important when hunting dangerous game that you can have as many rounds as possible..
//OK
10 October 2007, 22:55
Bent FossdalWell, you know, that REALLY depends on what action you build on, and what magazine you choose.
Bent Fossdal
Reiso
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10 October 2007, 22:58
JefferyDenmarkThe Heym Express is KING.
4+1 .500 Jeffery, 7+1 .375 H&H.

They even make them in .600 NE.
And this is without Rigby style magazine.

Cheers,
André
Always always use enough... GUN & KNIFE
11 October 2007, 04:17
RobgunbuilderI converted my NYATI to Beltfed. That way I know I will never run out of ammo when a ele herd attcks me.-Rob
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11 October 2007, 04:20
RIPHallelujah!!!
Overkill is back!!!
I believe OK was the inspiration for the naming of RGB's 600 Overkill.
Now let's see if the cumulative membership of "sumbuddy who know" can answer the question!!!
OK, my 2 cents, FWIW:
Most CZ 550's in .375 H&H will hold 6 cartridges down in the box, though the factory advertises only 5-down.
That same action will usually hold 5-down in .458 Lott, sometimes 6-down.
That same action will hold 4-down in 404 Jeffery, perfect factory box for this match, or .375 RUM.
That same action will "sometimes" hold 4-down in .416 Rigby, though the factory advertises only 3-down.
That same action will hold only 3-down in .505 Gibbs, with no room to spare.
The SIGARMS Prechtl-actioned M98 Magnum holds 4-down in 450 Dakota. Yes it does have a pocket-plate floor plate.
Ye Olde Pre-64 Winchester M70 was designed on purpose to hold 4-down of .375 H&H with no drop-box or pocket-plate tricks, just a "Mauser Cosine Law" perfect box is used with a sleek and trim stock belly contour.
.585 Nyati: That is best done with a straight vertical stack/in-line-feed, so the limit is only how long do you want the banana clip to be???
Hope this helps some.
Welcome back.

11 October 2007, 04:20
jeffeossoOK...
why would you even consider anything but a .600 OK?
just wondering
11 October 2007, 04:28
tom`quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
OK...
why would you even consider anything but a .600 OK?
just wondering
The ammo is heavy if you don't have a gun bearer.

11 October 2007, 12:14
Overkill from swedenquote:
OK...
why would you even consider anything but a .600 OK?
just wondering
Because I want to have as many rounds as possible in the magazine when hunting DG as brown bear..
I have used my .460 wby ( it will only take 3 rounds 2 down and one up) And sometimes it feels like it is not enough.. when I hunt moose it is some times possible to shot 2 at the same time and if they are running fast then it is just not enough.
I think it is better for DG to have lets say 6 .458 Lott ready than only 3 .600 OK..
i would feel much more safe with the 6 shot lott!
//OK
11 October 2007, 17:03
trophyhunter5000Unless you are on some sort of culling operation anything above three rounds is not going to help much...
There is a diminishing return on number of rounds fired...
The first is the most important...
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11 October 2007, 17:27
jro45On my CZ 550 American Safari Lott, it can hold 6 rounds easely
11 October 2007, 19:32
buffaloquote:
Originally posted by JefferyDenmark:
The Heym Express is KING.
4+1 .500 Jeffery, 7+1 .375 H&H.

They even make them in .600 NE.
And this is without Rigby style magazine.

Cheers,
André
I have a Hansen M-78 in 577 Tyrannosaur - it takes 4 down and one up

You can see the action at
http://www.magnumhansen.com/laaskasser.htm (bottom)
Regards
Ulrik Hentzer
11 October 2007, 19:52
MJinesCZ's are great for magazine capacity. Mine hold six Win Mag's/Lott's down and one up the spout. Nice to know you can throw a bunch of lead if you need to.
Mike
11 October 2007, 20:10
trophyhunter5000My Marlin 1895 CB holds 10 rounds of 45-70 (9+1)

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11 October 2007, 21:29
Overkill from swedenBuffalo!
You got PM!
//OK
11 October 2007, 21:35
Overkill from swedenBuffalo!
Please send me an e-mail insted of a PM.
robepoika@home.se
//Regards OK
11 October 2007, 21:40
TailgunnerWell, you could always get one of them Russian rifles that takes a 5 round enbloc clip (rapid reloading) and fires the 14.5x114. That ought to ge enough firepower for bear, esp with the various projectles that are available.

11 October 2007, 23:41
RobgunbuilderOverkill- I can understand your fear of the charging Sweedish Mooses! A terrifying sight to behold indeed! I too would be terrified of them and would want to have as many rounds in my gun as possible. However, I feel that I must remind you that a .458 lott is not OVERKILL even on a moose. You need to do pennance. Sit down and bang your head on the ground three times! Take a Advil and swear on the book of gun values that you will never think this way again!-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
12 October 2007, 12:16
Overkill from swedenquote:
I feel that I must remind you that a .458 lott is not OVERKILL even on a moose. You need to do pennance. Sit down and bang your head on the ground three times! Take a Advil and swear on the book of gun values that you will never think this way again!-Rob
HA HA HA ok I promise not to think that way again...

And I am not afraid for a swedish moose or the biggest alaska moose. But It is good to have a good magazine capacity when they are running and you may miss with your first shot or with the second. I shot them at 150+ yards when they a running sometimes.
But the brown bear is another animal.. I think you are right that the .458lott is not a real overkill for them

If I ever want to have another rifle than my .460 it will start with .585 Nyati to .600 Overkill or maybe the .577 Tyrannosuar

14 October 2007, 16:12
Paolo9,5x73That Heym Express is Gargantuan. Chambering that in .375H&H is almost as bad as pre-64 Mod. 70 in .22 Hornet!

14 October 2007, 16:53
tom`quote:
Originally posted by Paolo9,5x73:
That Heym Express is Gargantuan. Chambering that in .375H&H is almost as bad as pre-64 Mod. 70 in .22 Hornet!
Could be appropriate in .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer.
14 October 2007, 21:38
JefferyDenmarkquote:
Originally posted by Paolo9,5x73:
That Heym Express is Gargantuan. Chambering that in .375H&H is almost as bad as pre-64 Mod. 70 in .22 Hornet!
True
They also make the Express light in .375 H&H.
The Heym Express is a very BIG rifle and it only feels right in the BIG calibers .416 andf above.
Heym does sell the actions for projects, they are however expensive. I think they are a goos alternative to any magnum Mauser from others makers. The magazine is wide and well suited for those BIG cartridges.
Cheers,
André
Always always use enough... GUN & KNIFE
14 October 2007, 21:51
mr rigbyI get 5 + 1 in my 404 Jeffery Mauser and in the same magazine 6+ 1 of 358 Norma cases, so therers room and confidence in that magazine enough to handle most situations i will encounter.
18 October 2007, 05:22
xm15e2m4I get 4+1 in my CZ 416 Rigby.
I follow Rule #62.
20 October 2007, 07:49
RobgunbuilderI only need 1 600ok! More is simply a load I carry!-Rob
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012
Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise!
20 October 2007, 07:54
Macifejquote:
Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
I only need 1 600ok! More is simply a load I carry!-Rob
Roger That!
