Talked with our Ruger Rep yesterday about the .375 status.
He claimed that the sales had cooled down a bit after it took off initialy, but has taken off again and are selling at a record rate lately. Reports are that Hornady has since gotten ammo to far away places like africa as well for shooters of this cartridge.
We gave him some ideas on what Ruger should come out with as well, so we'll see!

The rumors of its death seem to have been greatly exaggerated.

I was hoping this would pass un noticed. But, now I feel obligated to point out that comments from a company sales rep that business is good, it pretty much par for the course.

Word as to what might come out next or suggestions offered, that would make for interesting chit chat. We got the 338 how about a 458?

I've read their financial statements .. and they have beaten the market in 2009

go figure
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=RGR

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Originally posted by fourbore:
I was hoping this would pass un noticed. But, now I feel obligated to point out that comments from a company sales rep that business is good, it pretty much par for the course.

Well put; similar to the news quoting realtors about the housing market.

Jeffe,


HAFD*!!!

Rich

*Happy April Fool's Day!

Sales figures and reps may be fuzzy, but I REALLY like my 375 Ruger African! I'm glad they are doing well. It's good for the gun industry as a whole if you ask me.

The only units I see over stocked on the shelf are the blued Alaskans. I think Cabelas in Fort Worth has 7-8 on the shelf. I do not see any stainless versions or Africans.

EZ

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The only units I see over stocked on the shelf are the blued Alaskans. I think Cabelas in Fort Worth has 7-8 on the shelf. I do not see any stainless versions or Africans.

EZ

If I’m correct in my reading, the Ruger website states that “blued Alaskan” is stainless steel metalwork having a factory “matte black (abrasion-resistant)” coating. So unless I’ve misread Ruger’s website…either the customers are looking for the stainless look or the Cabelas “salesperts” do not know their product.

Just my 2¢.

I saw two ruger 375 at the local cabelas in black plastic, with what appears to be a coated finish for 875. Its dam tempting.

JD

I wonder what will happen to Ruger sales now that the Howa 1500 is available in 375 Ruger? I believe both barreled actions and complete rifles (in blued and stainless) are being offered. Both formats seem to be competitively priced.

How long has the 375 Ruger been on the market?

My opinion is that it will be just like most of the other newer rounds that have came on the market in the past 20-25 years.

It will get a lot of press to start off with, sell a decent number of rifles chambered for it, build up a small following of loyal users, and then fade away over time.

It is happening with the WSM's, with the exception of the 300 WSM, the WSSm's, the Ultra anythings.

I remember when Weatherby brought out the 30-378, many people proclaimed it, The Ultimate 30 Caliber Rifle, most of the ones I know of, are languishing in the back of peoples gun safes and are only brought out when attempting to impress some neo-phyte with a heavy dose of recoil.

Besides that there is the growing popularity of the AR style rifles and the new chamberings and loadings that are being developed on those platforms.

Again, this is all just my opinion, your mileage may differ.

I really have nothing to shoot with one but I have to have one. Why wouldn't a MKX action that came off something like a 7mag work with a re-barrel and a little tweaking to get it to feed? I think I could put a pretty nice piece of equipment together for not much money. If I did the stock it would be that much less. DW

I agree with CrazyHorse. Though I think the 375 Ruger does fill a nitch with a 375 caliber round that will be essily chambered in a standard Mauser action. I never liked the WSM or WSSM line much either. There were already a slew of good cartridges in most of the calibers (240 Wby, 270 Wby, 7mm Mag, 300 H&H, 300 Win Mag, 300 Wby, all the way up to the 375 Wby Mag) ...

Regards,

Chuck

Perhaps those of you with connections with Ruger, sales or managmanet can comment on why:

The Ruger Alaskan is not offered in 338 WinMag although the African is?

The Ruger African is not offered in any 416?

Why neither is chambered for any 458?

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Perhaps those of you with connections with Ruger, sales or managmanet can comment on why:

The Ruger Alaskan is not offered in 338 WinMag although the African is?

The Ruger African is not offered in any 416?

Why neither is chambered for any 458?

No connection with Ruger, nor friends/contacts that work for/with Ruger, so these are just my 2¢.

Why no 338 WinMag in Alaskan Model, most likely because its already offered in the Ruger All-Weather and the cartridge needs the extra barrel length to hit its ballistics performance standards.

Why no 458 WinMag chambered in either; most likely because those who already bitch that the 375/416 Ruger should have been the 375 H&H/416 RemMag would piss and moan that it should have been chambered in 458 Lott.

Again, just my 2¢.

Pissin and moaning, I see you caught my act

Enough 338's then African and All-Weather. Just need a short/light 458 to round out the offerings.

The no 416 in the African is a bit of a mystery to me. I might guess they are having trouble building a wood stocked rifle, in this price range, with this much power, without cracking issues.

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Originally posted by capoward:

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Perhaps those of you with connections with Ruger, sales or managmanet can comment on why:

The Ruger Alaskan is not offered in 338 WinMag although the African is?

The Ruger African is not offered in any 416?

Why neither is chambered for any 458?

No connection with Ruger, nor friends/contacts that work for/with Ruger, so these are just my 2¢.

Why no 338 WinMag in Alaskan Model, most likely because its already offered in the Ruger All-Weather and the cartridge needs the extra barrel length to hit its ballistics performance standards.

Why no 458 WinMag chambered in either; most likely because those who already bitch that the 375/416 Ruger should have been the 375 H&H/416 RemMag would piss and moan that it should have been chambered in 458 Lott.

Again, just my 2¢.

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Originally posted by fourbore:
Pissin and moaning, I see you caught my act

Enough 338's then African and All-Weather. Just need a short/light 458 to round out the offerings.

Start harassing Ruger to chamber the 458 AccRel in their Alaskan then you’ll have a short/light 458 with some umph.

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Originally posted by dean119:
The no 416 in the African is a bit of a mystery to me. I might guess they are having trouble building a wood stocked rifle, in this price range, with this much power, without cracking issues.

Perhaps they can but the bean counters perceive that it would intrude into their sales of the M77 Magnum rifle.

But you could always by the 416 Alaskan and then pick up an Accurate Innovations wood stock for it, or have a gunsmith install a wood stock for you. It wouldn't have 23" barrel but then one really isn't needed; wood stock for dry country and the factory synthetic for snow or rain country.

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Start harassing Ruger to chamber the 458 AccRel in their Alaskan then you’ll have a short/light 458 with some umph

Not to jump the gun on my pissin & moanin, But I would prefer the old standby 458Win. Better to download with 400 grain bullets. More oomph than 458Marlin or 45/70 hot loads. This is for the Alaskan not African. That was my thinking on a 45 cal short, light, fast handling Alaskan.

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Originally posted by capoward:

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Originally posted by fourbore:
Pissin and moaning, I see you caught my act

Enough 338's then African and All-Weather. Just need a short/light 458 to round out the offerings.

Start harassing Ruger to chamber the 458 AccRel in their Alaskan then you’ll have a short/light 458 with some umph.

Thanks Jim ..
Its a pretty easy way to get to a lott, in a standard action! No longer than a winmag, vast difference in capacity ..

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Originally posted by fourbore:

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Start harassing Ruger to chamber the 458 AccRel in their Alaskan then you’ll have a short/light 458 with some umph

Not to jump the gun on my pissin & moanin, But I would prefer the old standby 458Win. Better to download with 400 grain bullets. More oomph than 458Marlin or 45/70 hot loads. This is for the Alaskan not African. That was my thinking on a 45 cal short, light, fast handling Alaskan.

Why not just buy a .416 Ruger Hawkeye? Even with the short barrel, I get 2320 f.p.s. out of my Alaskan with factory DGS & DGX's. I haven't shot any 350 grain softs out of it, but I'd imagine that those would do in any moose or brown bear pretty darn well (and resist rust well, too). I know that it will kill the snot out of an elephant.