Thinking about getting a CZ 550 in .375 H&H. Can anyone tell me how the recoil compares to that of 2 3/4 Brenneke 1 oz. slug of a 12 ga. Remington 870 slug shotgun or a 200 gr. Shock Wave from a 50 cal. Omega using two 50 gr. 777 pellets?
Thank You,
Silver Bear

While the recoil of the 375 calculates out higher than the 2 3/4 slug. I would rather stand and shoot my 375 vs a 12ga. mag load. Stock fit, weight all come into play.
My 375 is a kitty cat compared to my old 338. Rifle fits better, weighs more and the recoil is slower.

My CZ 375 is very easy to shoot off sticks, shooting off the bench, it will get your attention. EAsier to shoot then shotgun

I have 2 M70s in .375 H&H. They are very mild to shoot. If you can shoot a .300 Mag class rifle accurately you can learn to handle a .375. I was shooting my buddy's .300 RUM a few weeks ago side by side with one of my .375s and I thought the .300 RUM with 180gr bullets was much more unpleasant than my .375 with fullhouse 270gr TSX loads. I'd rather shoot my .375s any day rather than that nasty Ultramag.

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375 with fullhouse 270gr TSX loads

I've just started messing with 270 TSXs...mind if I ask what loads are working for you?

So far, all I've tried was RL15, and it's looking pretty good at 72.5 gr. / Win brass / CCI Mag primers.

My 375 CZ 550 with the European Stock is a pleasure to shoot. It's perceived recoil is about the same as my M70 300 win mag.

For my body, the European stock is an excellent fit, just feels good.

Silver Bear,

ramrod is correct. I have owned and do shoot magnum slug guns and a T/C muzzle loader with 150 g's of pyrodex and a 240 g sabot.

I own and shoot a 7 pound ((right around 8 with a scope and loaded)) 375 H&H. I would rather shoot the 375 H&H instead of the Rem 1100 slug or the T/C.

No contest.

When I sit at a benchrest to shoot the 375 H&H I place a sandbag between the stock and my shoulder as the recoil just plain hurts me. A 12 Ga slug from the bench is also a viscious smack that is duly unpleasant but I can shoot that without the sandbag.

When it comes to shooting while hunting neither of these bother me at all. I was told to sight in while standing at a bench and this really helps.

The 375 recoil isn't bad at all but you must learn how to shoot it.

I also find that the recoil isn't much different from the 338 Win Mag.

I have a pair of Sako 75's in SS. One is a 300 wby and the other is a 375 H&H. The 375 H&H kicks a bit more but neither of them are painfull to shoot. I did put Limbsaver prefit pads on both of them because the factory pads are kinda hard. I have shot a friends 338 win mag that is a factory winchester and to be honest it's more unpleasant then both my sako's to shoot. A good recoil pad will make a significant difference in felt recoil. I worked up tsx loads for 3 hunting rifles of mine 2 weeks ago. I shot 20 rounds of 7mm RM, 20 rounds of 300 wby and 20 rounds of 375 H&H in 1 range session. No sore shoulder or anything like that.

Someone was mentioning the 270gr for the 375 H&H. Those are exactly what I worked up a load for. I settled on 76gr of RL-15, RP brass, Remington 9 1/2M primers, 3.6 COL. 5 shots 3/4 inch 2750fps average. Looks like I found a keeper load for my H&H! As usual this load is safe in my rifle, I had no presure signs I could identify. Work up slowly if you want to try that recipe and be safe.

Have a good one.

I have a hogsback .375 H&H and really it's a pleasure to shoot, you will be fine, I have shot some light sxs shotguns with slugs that hurt more and take skin of you hands in chunks

I'd much rather shoot my .375 than my 12 ga. with slugs! In fact, I prefer shooting my .375 over most of my other rifles. It is very easy to master and a wonderful cartridge.

Shoot 50 rounds through a 458 Lott and the 375 will no longer have any recoil.

465H&H

Put a good pad on it, makes all the difference. I have a winchester and during the sighting in process, and testing function etc. etc. I fired quite a few rounds from the bench. after about 25-30 my shoulder would be sore, and I have some big ass shoulders. I put a limbsaver on it a couple of weeks ago and stopped at the range on the way to go hunting, the difference was immediately noticeable.

Red

I have a CZ 550 .375 Hoot & Holler with a hogsback stock. It's not too bad off the bench. Shooting full house 300gr RN loads is kinda akin to shooting a .50 BP Knight Wolverine with a 300gr bullet over 100gr of Pyrodex. Not exactly pleasant, but not exactly bad either. It's.....mmm...lively. I've been pounded worse by lesser rounds. Standing up and shooting is no problem.

Just be certain the butt is snugged up tightly into your shoulder. I took a second shot at a running zebra, and I guess I was concentrating on sight picture and had the rifle a bit loose, well, it slapped hell out of me: smitten both shoulder and cheek. I never felt the first shot.

Bear,

You will find the recoil of a CZ 375 to be just fine. The CZs are fairly heavy for a 375 and I find them pleasant to shoot. With a propper LOP and scope set up (enough eye relief...scope set forward) you will have no problems if you hold onto the rifle with both hands and pull it into your shoulder. From the bench you need a good upright posture (NO free recoil benchrest stuff) and a good cheek weld. Don't crawl the stock!

The 375 H&H is really a great round, and with a rifle of propper weight (your CZ has plenty!), a decent stock design, a good pad and good scope set up you are home free and loving it .

I honestly believe most people can learn to shoot a 375 very well, and enjoy it! The bigger calibers such as 416 Rigby in heavier loads and my favorite the 458 Lott are in a different category, and require a certain mind set...one that you must WANT to master these rounds.

The 375H&H as RIP would say has no flies. It is really a very shootable round that in John Taylor's words kills out of proportion to its ballistics.

I have other "pet" rounds I dote on more than the 375, but I wouldn't be without a 375. I have 3 in the safe now

Get the 375 H&H, set it up properly and enjoy the heck out of it!!!!!

John

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Shoot 50 rounds through a 458 Lott and the 375 will no longer have any recoil.

Amen. Once I mastered my Lott, everything else seemed unduly light and underpowered. Mastering a Lott class cartridge is a liberating thing. It makes all the others (save a few)OK . Akin to losing one's virginity.

Wear nice shooting gloves and protect the back of the gloves trigger finger by loosly wrapping it with tape.

I have cut my glove finger by forgetting this.

Hold the rifle correctly and firmly, be confident, aim and shoot.

Then rack in another and do it again and again till empty.

You rule it, it does not rule you, it just ain't big enough to do that if YOU insist that things will be YOUR WAY!

Before you know it you'll be driving to PA. to shoot with retreever and his 450 #2 and Doc52 with his 500NE and new treasure, the 577 NE by www.searcyent.com - all DOUBLES!

That's what happened to me!

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:

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375 with fullhouse 270gr TSX loads

I've just started messing with 270 TSXs...mind if I ask what loads are working for you?

So far, all I've tried was RL15, and it's looking pretty good at 72.5 gr. / Win brass / CCI Mag primers.

Tumbleweed,

My favorite load is the 270gr TSX over 74.0gr RL15 in Remington brass with Winchester WLR primers. It shoots into 1/2" at 100 yds and chronos an honest 2,700 fps out of my rifles.

my m70 with a redfield 2x7x20 weighs in at 8.5 lbs.... balances nicely for me...on the bench the 270gr federals remind me i'm sitting down... if i'm standing, i never notice the recoil...

Just remembered another beast to shoot where i would MUCH rather be shooting a 375 H&H.

That spicey little gun was a side by side 12 bore Paradox with full loads of black powder it pushed a 750 grain conical bullet at around 1300 fps.

The gun weighed around seven pounds and the stock was very trim with a sharp comb.

Very fast and sharp recoil, but man was it fun to shoot. I miss that little beast.

Thanks for all your advice. I feel confident I can shoot a .375 H&H.
Silver Bear

Take your first shots off-hand. Once you see that the recoil isn't bad at all, you'll have an easier time sighting in.

George

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Originally posted by Dago Red:
Put a good pad on it, makes all the difference........ I put a limbsaver on it a couple of weeks ago and stopped at the range on the way to go hunting, the difference was immediately noticeable.

Red

I'll second the Limbsaver pad. I've got one on my A-Bolt .375 Wby. and it is not spiteful to shoot at all. It weighs 8 3/4 lb. scoped & loaded. It will definitely give you a snap from the bench. But it won't hurt you. I never shot any rifle bigger than 300 Win Mag's and 7mm STW before the .375. I have shot hundreds of rounds through turkey guns (12's, 3 1/2" 12's, 10's) from the bench. Figured the .375 couldnt be that much worse. I went in a tad apprehensive. But it was all for naught.

I picked up a Caldwell Lead Sled shooting rest. It really cuts the recoil down shooting off the bench for load development.

The first "big bore" I acquired was a .375 H&H. I approached it with some apprehension. Not needed. Start shooting from a standing position rest (like sticks) until you're comfortable with the recoil ... a little worse than a .338 WM but not bad at all.

in all honesty, the 375 HH, if loaded AS a 375 HH (300gr at 2500fps) in a hunting weight rifle (9-10#).... has a very low recoil FOR A BIG BORE.

Anyone that can shoot a 338winmag can shoot a 375HH with "factoryish" loads.

It is FAR more pleasant to shoot than, day, a 300 RUM.


jeffe

Jeffe,

I always thought the 300's were the worst (sharpest) kicking rifles of any I'd ever shot ... the .338 WM and the .375 H&H are much more pleasant. Is especially true of those 300s with huge overbores like the RUMs and the 30-378!

Ive got a Browning A-Bolt in 375 H&H and it is a pleasure to shoot.I dont think the recoil is any worse than a 300 Win.I had a 7mm Rem Mag in a Ruger 77 and I swear that rifle was far worse to shoot then my Browning 375