Let's assume we are talking about doubles, so there will be no feeding problems.

And let's assume we are talking about an American double that regulates everything, not one of those finicky antiques from across the Atlantic.

How well would a full wadcutter bullet (perfect cylindrical shape) penetrate compared to other bullets, such as a conventional round nosed solid, a large meplate like those offered by GS Custom or Bridger Bullets, etc.?

I've seen a 1000 gr Bridger Flat Meplate bullet go through "4 ft of oak" I'd say not badly at all! It went straight also!-Rob

rob i have a bunch of the 1000 grn bridger solids impressive looking bullet

Robgunbuilder, was that 1000 gr bullet fired from a 600 OK? That is impressive penetration. I can recall one individual here at AR stating that his 9.3X62 would not penetrate 3 inches of English oak!

Axel

I don't know about a 9.3X62 but a 1000 gr bullet at 2500 fps is a serious chunk of brass. A 470 Mbogo with solids will make it through 2 ft of Oak.

Axel--That 1000 gr was fired from Rob's 700 BMG
improved I think.They are still waiting for 600
OK brass.In heavy tissue a wadcutter won't be
quite as good as a flat nosed African style,
but it would be better than a spitzer.But if wadcutter had narrow shoulder it would work
fairly good.. Ed.

Is that seasoned dry oak, or wet green oak? I have heard that seasoned dry wood is much more difficult to penetrate. Once heard tales of a 416 Rigby that penetrated over 2.5 feet of living oak.

Axel

[ 04-29-2003, 06:21: Message edited by: Axel ]

I once shot through an Oak tree that was so big that I later cut it down and made a Dining Room Table out of one of the cross sections. Or was it Walnut?

I tried some barnes solids with a flat wadcutter nose and feeding in a bolt gun was a problem of course. the tended to tumble...

then I started useing homemade simi wadcutters and everything came together...I begged all the bullet makers to make them but it all fell on deaf ears until GS Customs made one and then I got my first real sho nuff flat nose solid, happy days, not Bridger has a very pretty simi wadcutter solid and I'm getting some Groove bullets next...

The flat nose solid is the only solid to use, now if someone will just put a pronounced cutting shoulder on them, you will, in effect, have a wadcutter..

Seasoned California Red Oak. These sections are from a 3 ft diameter tree I had to cut down seven years ago. Toughest stuff to penetrate I ever saw! We were shooting into the cross sections, one lined up behind the other with a small air gap between them.-Rob

Robgunbuilder!

What caliber does that 1000 grainer have???

BTW, I don't know that flat nose bullets enhance penitration, that has not been my experience although they do penitrate like the dickens as will about any solid....All solids today seem to penitrate more than enough.

What a flat nose solid does is cut a cookie cutter hole that bleeds profusly, does a lot more internal damage and mainly drives in a straight line which a round nose will not do as consistently....

Basically what you want is a bullet with a wadcutter shoulder similar to the RWS "TUG" bullet but with a flat nose ? Here we are trying to invent something that Breneke invented 75 years ago.

How about a spire point, with a caliber diameter
sharp edge?
Sort of a monometal solid wadcutter, with a spire point on top for aero?
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